Hmm, would be interesting to hear what they actually said.

2,1 is FRSV plus 20 minutes.

With that kind of fuel no way that is a "mayday fuel", at best a "minimum fuel" situation, but considering the destination, as already said, I see no problem in being committed, assuming good weather clearly.

23.3Tons of fuel, are you sure about that figure....

Well 23500 at the gate for the neo and 23800 for the 737.

The thing here is, that it is way more fuel than the 737MAX can take.

The b737 Max 9 is equipped with 1 ACT.
https://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/#

Just out of curiosity, where did you find this figure of 23T. I fly the MAX 8 of course without Auxiliary tank and on the best day you can fit 21.0T.

Thanks

The fuel capacity with one act is just the same one as on the b737-900er: 29660.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation

B737Max9
 

Here we are, today Primera has lined out the plans for the next season.
3 b737 Max 9 will be based in BRU for the transatlantic flights. I guess few other bases will be soon announced for the b737 long range as they have ordered 20 machines.

I guess the range of the boeing is definitely the same as the 321Neo or even better as Bruxelles is even further than Paris or Stansted.

Primera A321neo LR
 

ROSTER'S

mmmmmm chaotic, shambles, take your pick. Zero Management, massive issues, I would stay away until we see action to sort out a Business out of control............

It could be fantastic, but it is not anywhere close. Payrise pending, but its not just about the T&C, much more about Management steering the Co to success, we are Rudderless

Hello future G-V driver,

Maybe you can give me a better insight picture....how is the life as a Crew? are they respect each other.....and how are the hotels on stopover. Have you the possibly to make some workout or use the Gym? Regarding the roster how looks a normal month? how many Standby days can I expect.

How long was your training and the line training after the OPC/LPC? do you see the same problems still exist if the MAX starts to fly? Is it right that 8 A321NEO on order and two of the are A321NEO LR? and when they are expect to put them on the line....it looks like they still have issue due to the delay delivery from Airbus?

Finally my question is it worth thinking about leaving a secured job to work for Primera Air?

Thank you in advance for taken your time to answer my question.

Best Regards

Primera A321 operation wil have a very short life if it continues like this.

Questions
 

Well, the business model depends on it, apparently:

https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/little-differently-philosophy-primera-air

About a year ago the DFO was quoted saying how happy the company was to see airBerlin and Monarch go belly up. Despite most pilots being picked up by the likes of easyjet, BA, Virgin, TUI etc. he argued there will always be a few in the bankrupt companies that slid through the recruitment process once with an established airline, however would have a hard time passing it a second time. Those would be welcomed to join Primera to the conditions you describe, as they would have nowhere else to go...

Sure, not a first hand quote that I've heard myself but a reliable source.

Utter garbage and rather offensive to myself and my colleagues. Whilst I fully accept terms and conditions need ramping up to attract and retain good crews together with better rostering and planning, the rest is just an ignorant smear. I personally passed selection for 2 other airlines, one in UK and one in Asia. I choose Primera because I could stay on type, live 30 minutes from my base and also do longhaul. The challenges and opportunities in a start up can also be an attraction.

Many of my colleagues are from good airlines like Monarch, Thomas Cook, Turkish, WOW, Alitalia, Gulf Air, Etihad, Jetstar Asia etc as well as a few ex military pilot backgrounds. To say they only ended up at Primera because they weren’t good enough to go anywhere else is a nasty smear irrespective of the alleged source!

I had some sympathy based on your first paragaph. Then you went and let yourself down with your list of airlines you consider "good". Maybe edit it and put in first world airlines such as BA, AL, KLM, Air France, Lufty, SAS.

You know many pilots actually join major airlines and see out their careers with the one employer. We don't need to chase contracts across the world. Sure sometimes its a bit of luck to avoid one going bust but then I am a firm believer that you make a lot of your own luck in the world.

Don't feed the troll. Ending not in BA/AL in one stage in your career makes no-one a cripple pilot. Not to mention that review of JACDEC shows at least 2 of his chosen creme-dela-creme to be somewhat an under-informed choice.

Many pilots who have carried their families through bankruptcy needed to go full expat or very far away from home. After 2-5 years out, the value of home takes off into a completely another dimension. Hope it works for you, and maybe eventually it will transform into a more tolerable assignment. For instance, the Monarchs at SAIL are trying hard in similar circumstances. Wish success to both.

He was quoting the DFO. If those are indeed the views of the DFO that is pretty offensive for the crews

Sad news as we now know - Airline to cease all Ops WIE.

Condolences to all the crews and staff - many came from Monarch who also collapsed a year ago today too...

Forgive him for he knows not what he says......from inexperience and ignorance.

ASTA, Mountain High the Future of Aviation
 

Hello ex colleagues of the Primera Air. It is sad that a promising idea experiences such a quick ending.

What I saw skeptically from the beginning was the collaboration with ASTA. In retrospect, this was quite justified and has saved me from private bankruptcy.

Andri Már Ingólfsson is already a shrewd businessman. Like many others, he simply outsources the dangerous costs of insolvency and thus bears no responsibility whatsoever.
His wistful and oh so personal mail to everyone is just a joke. The answers came in bulk and at sometimes were marked by strong emotions.With all the laws that the passengers have the policy but apparently that there is still us. To get an AOC, you need a lot of things, but most of all you need money. The policy should start only to award AOC's when the pay of the employees is secured.

Above all, the responsible aviation authority should finally take off your blinders and prohibit such constructs as those at Primera Air and ASTA. With almost 30 years in the aviation industry, I also had to discover that a lot has changed.

The statements so many pilots are needed scares me. The more they need will be, the more people like Andri Már Ingólfsson will try to get the maximum out of us.
Anyone who thinks that he is crying for us is wrong. His financial geniuses have been making sure for several weeks that his Primer Travel Group will perform well.
I learned a lot during my studies! Above all.... only believe what you understand yourself. We are all just one piece of the whole and only those who are unfortunately able to generate profit.

Sad is and unfortunately that is the truth. The aviation will continue to grow but the collateral for us will be less and less exist.
Earlier compared to today, a frequently job change would have been the death sentence. Nowadays it is more normal that after many years of work you have to write a two-page CV to apply.

1 1/2 years I have looked around, compared and now had to come to the conclusion that it is sometimes better to hold a half full glass in the hand, than the promise to get a full glass to believe.

I wish all former colleagues and colleagues that you will soon find something again. Perhaps a start in a very different area is the first step out of this endless loop of mismanagement, corruption and ongoing lies.

I have only a few more years and I hope to survive, but one thing I would like to clarify. If it hits me I will certainly not fly again.

We do everything in the cockpit to make sure that everything runs smoothly. None of us should take off without Plan B. Even ECAM, EICAS and FORDEC are just clues and not a patent prescription.
In daily training, I always get to know people who have no answer to the question of what your plan B looks like if you can not fly from one day to the next.
My dad used to say ... boy, if you want to fly, you can do that, but first you have to do an apprenticeship in the craft, on which you can build if necessary, if the other does not work.

Good post from Master1975.