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Originally Posted by juxa
(Post 11739078)
I was thinking Air Baltic Academy too but all these with debts, looking for investors, IPO etc made me think that I will loose my money and my time
I had a conversation yesterday with a pilot friend who came back in Finland without a job after a year with Air Baltic because it wasn't as expected. No Tampere base, no fast command. Told me that things are bad, and everyone is trying to leave before the bankruptcy. That's why they reduced from 1000 hours to 300 hours for first officers It seems like it might not be a viable option as a possible employer, atleast not at the moment. |
Let's be honest, there was never a crew base in Tampere.
There's obviously a fast track command at the moment, and I fly most of my time with young captains who were upgraded less than 6 months ago. You just need to have the right requirements. And that's just as well, because I don't want to fly in Zurich with a captain who has no experience on the 220, nor any experience on a jet. A lot of pilots are leaving (and I'm one of them), but the reasons are not linked to airBaltic's financial situation. Exhausting rosters, ACMI literally destroying personal lives, a base (Riga) that's as nice to live in as a gulag in winter, low pay for captains... These are the reasons. Strangely enough, FO salaries are actually quite decent. Not good enough, given that we spend all our time in ACMI, but I've received contracts from big companies in Western Europe and the salaries aren't that attractive. Count 5k after tax (all inclusive) during the summer for a FO with 1000h at airBaltic. 3k during the winter when the roster is very chill. They've lowered their requirements because they need to find a large number of new pilots to compensate for the people leaving and to plan for their growth, which the academy isn't currently able to train. In addition, the improved rosters planned for 2025 will require more crew. Beyond that, airBaltic is a good opportunity depending on how far you've progressed in your career. The academy is probably one of the cheapest programmes in Europe, with the assurance that you'll end up on the right side of a +50t jet. You have to pay +100k at CAE/EZY, here we're talking about 25k as airBaltic sponsors more than 2/3 of the price. (The financial risks are therefore very low in the end). If you're an experienced turboprop pilot, you can switch to a jet and become a captain in just one year. |
Originally Posted by SkyGOAT
(Post 11734710)
Hello,
Could an active AB pilot tell me how many days you are at home and how is the work/ life balance. Is there a bidding system based on seniority? Do you think the roster will improve next year? Next summer 22 aircraft will be leased out to Lufthansa group. Are they short on staff? I would like to get some information before making any decision. thanks In summer, we have 20 days in ACMI for the lufthansa group if you have a low seniority. On second thought, even with a decent seniority you will be sent on ACMI for the lufthansa group, but you can choose your layovers. Flights from Riga are mainly used for training or for those at the top of the seniority list. There is a bidding system, but in summer you will basically have the choice of flying ACMi for Swiss, Lufthansa or Eurowings. The rosters can only get better next summer. This summer has been hell. For next summer, we'll probably have a 5on/4off/5on/2off/5on/4off/5on/1off. |
Originally Posted by Wroclaw
(Post 11739193)
Let's be honest, there was never a crew base in Tampere.
There's obviously a fast track command at the moment, and I fly most of my time with young captains who were upgraded less than 6 months ago. You just need to have the right requirements. And that's just as well, because I don't want to fly in Zurich with a captain who has no experience on the 220, nor any experience on a jet. A lot of pilots are leaving (and I'm one of them), but the reasons are not linked to airBaltic's financial situation. Exhausting rosters, ACMI literally destroying personal lives, a base (Riga) that's as nice to live in as a gulag in winter, low pay for captains... These are the reasons. Strangely enough, FO salaries are actually quite decent. Not good enough, given that we spend all our time in ACMI, but I've received contracts from big companies in Western Europe and the salaries aren't that attractive. Count 5k after tax (all inclusive) during the summer for a FO with 1000h at airBaltic. 3k during the winter when the roster is very chill. They've lowered their requirements because they need to find a large number of new pilots to compensate for the people leaving and to plan for their growth, which the academy isn't currently able to train. In addition, the improved rosters planned for 2025 will require more crew. Beyond that, airBaltic is a good opportunity depending on how far you've progressed in your career. The academy is probably one of the cheapest programmes in Europe, with the assurance that you'll end up on the right side of a +50t jet. You have to pay +100k at CAE/EZY, here we're talking about 25k as airBaltic sponsors more than 2/3 of the price. (The financial risks are therefore very low in the end). If you're an experienced turboprop pilot, you can switch to a jet and become a captain in just one year. As one who might apply for the academy, the financial situation worries me quite a lot. I the aspect that what if the company would go "under" during the studies or soon after the possible employment, possibly having paid already for a certain part of the studies. Having to relocate to Riga etc... The studies cost 79k according to the info and it can be financed by your self or with a loan from aB. As you said, it is far cheaper than most of the fly schools in europe and should come with a mostly certain job guarantee... It's good to know how it really is for you out there, thanks for that. |
Originally Posted by Paulig11
(Post 11739230)
Again, thanks for your reply!
As one who might apply for the academy, the financial situation worries me quite a lot. I the aspect that what if the company would go "under" during the studies or soon after the possible employment, possibly having paid already for a certain part of the studies. Having to relocate to Riga etc... The studies cost 79k according to the info and it can be financed by your self or with a loan from aB. As you said, it is far cheaper than most of the fly schools in europe and should come with a mostly certain job guarantee... It's good to know how it really is for you out there, thanks for that. |
Originally Posted by ctacik
(Post 11731395)
It's not only the Latvians that can prevent the write off of state money. This need to pass through the European Commission and we are talking for more than half a billion on tax money. Turkish Airlines is a strategic airline but Erdogan can pour as much tax money as he likes, no one will question him and he is not under EU regulations. Can't use tax money to boost a European airline, it's unethical and probably illegal.
Latvians and tourists would prefer more flights from RIX with the low cost airlines. Riga is a destination for budget tourists, expensive tickets like aB provides is more harm than good for tourism |
Originally Posted by Wroclaw
(Post 11739197)
The work-life balance is quite good in winter, non-existent in summer.
In summer, we have 20 days in ACMI for the lufthansa group if you have a low seniority. On second thought, even with a decent seniority you will be sent on ACMI for the lufthansa group, but you can choose your layovers. Flights from Riga are mainly used for training or for those at the top of the seniority list. There is a bidding system, but in summer you will basically have the choice of flying ACMi for Swiss, Lufthansa or Eurowings. The rosters can only get better next summer. This summer has been hell. For next summer, we'll probably have a 5on/4off/5on/2off/5on/4off/5on/1off. |
Originally Posted by ctacik
(Post 11733162)
He just announced the end of airBaltic.
Can't survive without pumping more tax money, no investor will fund them with the complicated debt to state. Complicated because it is against EU regulations to write it of and also needs approval from Latvian parliament. On October their parliament will discuss next year's budget, let's see what they will vote for aB https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....92addde02.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Wroclaw
(Post 11739193)
They've lowered their requirements because they need to find a large number of new pilots to compensate for the people leaving
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Originally Posted by patituri
(Post 11741164)
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Originally Posted by patituri;[url=tel:11739865
11739865[/url]]Latvians are accusing this politician for the lost money and the destruction of state businesses
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Originally Posted by Denti
(Post 11734028)
There was once an airline that flew 38 A320 for Eurowings, and another 15 or so for Austrian, and could have been bought for next to nothing once they had a problem. Lufthansa rather let them go under and picked up the aircraft from the lessors, hired pilots just like any other with the normal application process. Another Airline that was partly run by Martin Gauss before as well.
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Hey i know there has been issues with AB, but regardless still willing to try for their academy since they will have base in Tallinn next year and i already have a family and this is where i am at.
If anyone could DM or share more intel on the passing the whole thing. Also, after the first application does everybody get a pass to the first online assessment or already you can get declined? Ive started to practice with pilotassessments. Somebody also mention skytest. Like, i have reasonable IQ set, knowledge of some Maths and Physics and not a psycho etc. But i realize to actually pass to the studies you will actually have to be better than most others onsite assessment possibly has a great weight in that also. Is there knowledge on using some kind of specific test programs in addition to practice? I would be so happy to get any information from people who actually passed it all and are now pilots or cadets. Willing to prepare myself and study a lot not sure if i can pass! |
Originally Posted by Aspirantpilot;[url=tel:11746151
11746151[/url]]Hey i know there has been issues with AB, but regardless still willing to try for their academy since they will have base in Tallinn next year and i already have a family and this is where i am at.
If anyone could DM or share more intel on the passing the whole thing. Also, after the first application does everybody get a pass to the first online assessment or already you can get declined? Ive started to practice with pilotassessments. Somebody also mention skytest. Like, i have reasonable IQ set, knowledge of some Maths and Physics and not a psycho etc. But i realize to actually pass to the studies you will actually have to be better than most others onsite assessment possibly has a great weight in that also. Is there knowledge on using some kind of specific test programs in addition to practice? I would be so happy to get any information from people who actually passed it all and are now pilots or cadets. Willing to prepare myself and study a lot not sure if i can pass! |
Hi everyone
Is there anyone who had the Riga Assessment the past few days for the SFO Fast track Captain Position? What was the Sim Profile on the Da42? Which questions for the technical interview? What is the 4 hours safety assessment? What were HR Questions? I can not find any current information. THANKS |
Originally Posted by LimaLimaZuluDelta
(Post 11747206)
Hi everyone
Is there anyone who had the Riga Assessment the past few days for the SFO Fast track Captain Position? What was the Sim Profile on the Da42? Which questions for the technical interview? What is the 4 hours safety assessment? What were HR Questions? I can not find any current information. THANKS - Sim profile very basic. Takeoff, bit of basic flying skills, tune VOR, after some turns get asked to report position, one or two approaches including a go around, possibly a hold entry and hold. Don't recall if they mentioned N-1 flying. - For most of them the technical questions focused on winter ops, hold over times, runway conditions, deicing. Could have been because the time off year they went for the assessment. Also some general technical questions, nothing that should really trip you up if you are coming in with some experience. This interview was done by the same person assessing your sim ride. HR person also present with some standard questions like Why airBaltic, where do you see yourself etc. - "Safety Assessment" are just general aptitude tests. I've heard them mention some test with holding a triangle balanced in the center of a room with the use of some joysticks while it constantly tries to move away from there. Some sort of rhythm test smacking different color buttons and feet pedals on command. Spatial and logical reasoning tests. Those sounded like pretty standard fare. If you pass it all, second day was some psych eval, multi mode personality test and then interview with chief pilot and head of HR. Don't know how much this helps, as it is not the most current info, but I doubt they completely changed their process in the meantime. |
Hello my friends.
I would like to ask if Air Baltic is helping with the visa for the ICAO pilots. Does anyone know if they provide tickets from and to Africa? I will apply for DEC ICAO pilots category for Air Baltic. I am A220 Captain with Air Tanzania. Thank you for your help my dear friends |
Originally Posted by CaptainMahmut
(Post 11750394)
Hello my friends.
I would like to ask if Air Baltic is helping with the visa for the ICAO pilots. Does anyone know if they provide tickets from and to Africa? I will apply for DEC ICAO pilots category for Air Baltic. I am A220 Captain with Air Tanzania. Thank you for your help my dear friends |
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Mid October and not registered yet. This month will be crucial |
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