Thomson recruitment.
 

Hi all

Thomson are opening up their recruitment for type rated B757 and B737 pilots.

Check out tuitraveljobs.com will be on there soon, opens 18/8/2014.

Closing is on the 22/8/2014 1700L.

Cheers.

Presumably new entrants would all join as FOs, no DEC?

No DECs.

Best of luck

Any possibility of Non rated experienced people at any point?

thanks a lot !
;)

Internal mail today
 

Hi,

For your information we will be opening our recruitment for 737 NG Type Rated Pilots and 757 Type Rated Pilots on Monday 18th August on our Careers web site. The positions will close at 1700L on Friday 22nd August.

If you have friends who want to apply they should use the following links:

737 Type rated
External link - https://tuijobs-uk.mobolt.com/show_j...9213&aid=11697


757 Type rated
External Link - https://tuijobs-uk.mobolt.com/show_j...9219&aid=11697


At the moment we will not be opening any recruitment for cadet entry pilots or for non-type rated. Should this situation change I will advise you.

Thomson recruitment.
 

Council Van

Historically the positions have been for permanent part year contracts working full time in the summer and part time in the winter for , off the top of my head, circa 80% of full time pay. There have also been some temporary contracts offered which, in the main, have turned into permanent positions. The exact nature of this recruitment round has not been released, but will be detailed in the above links when they become active. There are no current plans for cadet or non type rated entries.

I would only be interested in full time

Good luck then. Do it part time for a summer then wait to get the full time position.

Where are the 75's based?

Thomson recruitment.
 

75's LGW and LTN I believe

Requirements for 73 last time were current and minimum 500 hours on type - guess it will be the same this time.

More details on Monday when it opens

John Smith,

Joining TOM as a career move at 30 would imply a 35 year career. Chances are you would achieve command in that time scale! Seriously though, there have not been many command opportunities in recent years, although a group recently achieved commands initially temporarily, which have just been made permanent. The company is regarded by many who join as a "career airline", so turnover is low, and times to command have exceeded 10 years. Who knows what the future holds, but hopes of a quick command would not be a good reason to choose Thomson.

Council Van,

I guess that depends on whether 80% of full time represents a pay cut on your present scales, with the prospect of a 20% pay rise in the future. (80% of current new join FO scale is roughly £44500). On top of that would be company loss of licence of £50000, £8.95 an hour duty rig, £164000 death in service benefit, £450 for working on a day off, medical paid for, uniform provided, private health cover etc etc. These are all subject to current negotiations between BALPA and the company as part of ongoing pay negotiations, the pilots having recently rejected the original RPI offer. Sometimes it's about more than a headline salary figure.

757 based at MAN/GLA/BHX/LGW/BRS. Bristol may change to 737 but the old bird will be around for some years yet elsewhere.

Great, so all you need to do is lose your licence or die and the company give you a pitiful, short term amount of money that gives you not a lot for anything! In easyJet for example we get a lot more than that. Private health cover is good though - nice perk!

Does anybody know anything about numbers and potential start dates?

Thanks beamer

WhyByFlier
Fine...stay at EZY then. All I can say is that recent new joiners from other carriers have found the experience a positive one. Each to their own.
Rotafix
I am afraid no details have been released regarding numbers. As far as start date is concerned, again no detail at present, maybe the ad will give more information, but you could expect at the latest to be up and running for the start of the summer 15 season in May.

For those on a 756
• Type rated on B757?
• Have a minimum of 300 hours on B757?
• Have a minimum of 100 hours B757 in 12 months prior to application.
For those on a 737
• Type rated on B737NG (600, 700, 800, 900,)?.
• Have a minimum of 300 hours on B737NG (600, 700, 800, 900,?.
• Have a minimum of 100 hours B737 300-900 in 12 months prior to application.

ASSESSMENT DAYS WILL BE HELD AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND TRAINING COURSES FOR SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES WILL COMMENCE EARLY 2015

Detailed info on the job site. Links are in a post above.

Where would new 737 guys likely be based?

Honestly no idea but expect it to be places like Cardiff Doncaster Newcastle and alike.
Don't expect Gatwick, as a few pilots recently moved in.

And 50% in the winter!

Salary is reduced across 12 months to account for the 50% winter working, as already stated it's circa 80% of full time pay. Full time pay on joining due to the fact you start and are training during the winter season. Maximum of five years on PPY50 (Permanent Part Year) before being made full time.

....and 15 years to a command! Now that Thomson Airways has lowered its cost base in the form of new contracts for new pilots to the airline that are very similar to the competition (easy, Norwegian etc) why would anyone join?

Make no mistake, there are some very well off pilots in Thomson who have been in the company many decades and who have terms and conditions which would make you blush. But new recruits will be joining a B737 operator on similar terms and conditions to other LCCs and any perceived financial gain in the beginning will be easily eroded away by the lengthy wait to command.

@ Boeing7E7: better stay in RYR then ?

Boeing 7E7 I appreciate it's not what it used to be. But considering a majority of the 737 rated guys will be RYR and having done time there, I would rather be in the RHS at Thomson for 15 years than anymore time in RYR...even if I could have been LHS after 4-5 years. The T&Cs still beat what's on offer elsewhere.

Contacts @ Thomson
 

Does anyone have any contact details for the recruitment peeps at Thomson? I have a couple of questions I needed to ask and all of the ones I can find online (phone numbers etc) seem to be generic and of little use or not still connected. The reason for needing to ask directly is that I'm ex military and I know in the past they have been keen supporters of hiring people like myself. Please inbox me if you do. Not a fan of openly sharing this kind of info. Thanks in advance.

The salary is similar to other locos but the t&c's are still excellent and let's not forget our add ons for example a level 2 SSH is worth 170 quid. Plus a 15% pension package and the chance of longhaul in the future and it's still a good deal. Time to command in an issue granted.

Thanks rjay259,

How long is the list for guys wanting to move to LGW? Are we talking a year or so wait or longer?

LGW
 

Last year a number of FOs moved in who had been in the company for less than a year however these were the first new guys into the company for some time. Those that are moving there for Summer 2015 will have been here for two years by the time they move.

It's very difficult to say. All depends on how many people they recruit this year, where you fall in seniority, fleet changes etc. But I would think you're looking at around 3-4 years minimum...but don't hold me to that and others maybe able to advise better :}

Base moves are done on a seasonal basis and in seniority order not first come first served.

Disagree with 15yrs to command. I ve done 8.5yrs and still have at least another 10 to go. Lots of fun things in between though (757.767. Canada, etc)

If you want an easy life in the uk come, if you want to live life with change go elsewhere.

Why is 7k knocked off first year?

Thanks for posting that 2d!

Who'd have thought I'd be a lot better off at Yorkshire Airlines!

"Wipe 'tha bloody feet..."

Remember that the figures quoted are basic salary, they don't included flight/duty pay and if you do any flexi working payments that is on top too.
Also if you are 737 the ability to goto Canada will aslo add in.
Duty pay is about £8.95 for fo and a flexi is worth £490ish, I think someone put the correct figures on here already but I haven't had time to search as my six week old and three year olds are giving me gip.

You're also forgetting the £3.50 (approx) per hour Flight Duty Allowance. (Based on duty hours)
The £8.97 figure is duty rig which is based on flight hours and is factored for 'unsociable' hours. (x1.8 for the worst hours)
Both of these can make a sizeable part of your income.

How strict will they be on the requirements? I more than enough 737 hours but I have not flown in the last 12 months... Is it still worth applying?

If you don't ask, you don't get......

:p

Is it just me or are Aviation HR departments sometimes got an inflated opinion of their company?

Essentially with the restrictions, (over 300 on typed aircraft and 100 in the past year) we are looking for you to come to us (no doubt from another employer based on said restrictions) and take a reduced salary initially on a seasonal contract.

For that we offer a UK base and one of the best T&C's outwith BA/Virgin however we are doing our best to dilute that as much as possible with a company with one of the longest time to commands in the industry.

Oh yes and we want you to be current and ideally done 3 T/O's and landings in the previous 90. If you're not we'd like it if you self fund a renewal before commencement of employment however we will give you extensive SOP training and stick you in a sim before releasing you to line training, revalidating your LPC only a few weeks later. However the element of training risk is removed and you will be a couple of grand lighter in the pocket.

Any idea on wait time for the 787 for new starters onto the 757

Thanks

What are the skippers like in TOM? Do you generally have a laugh when you go to work? Is it myth that there are a lot of stuffy old dinosaurs well past their sell-by-date?

It's an important consideration when one is contemplating spending 15 years in the RHS there.