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Afternoon folks,

Just after a bit of advice really! Long story short I'll be going onto the 787 based out of BHX starting in August. I'm currently flying the Q400, doing 900 hours a year on a very busy 5 days on, two days off roster on an aircraft which tries to kill you at least three times a day the moment you take your eyes off it! Essentially jumping from an aircraft that weighs just under thirty tonnes up to an aircraft which weighs just under 300 tonnes, is slightly daunting but I'm looking forward to the challenge. I was wondering how others found the transition onto the 787. Was it a huge tech jump? How is it to fly? Etc...I don't think my usual routine of waking up and praying to the Bombardier Gods is going to work for the 787 as it does for the Dash!

In terms of rosters I'm very used to being worked to the ragged edge, doing 900 hours on full five day weeks with just two days and sometimes even less days off inbetween! Nonetheless I fully expect the LH rosters to be very busy aswell, but even so I'm hoping it'll make a nice change from the drumming I'm currently getting!

Cheers

If you work for the airline I think ... And if you really fly 900hr a year ... You decided yourself to remove the 750hr max a year of your schedule agreement.

Saying that, I have not doubt the 787 will be much more easy than the Q400.
Good luck.

787 is a lovely machine. It's not without it's gotchas but I trust your experience of thinking "how will it kill me now?" with the Q400 should serve you well on the 78. I imagine turbo prop to heavy jet will probably be quite the learning curve but I've never flown a turboprop so wouldn't know.

LH rosters can be busy, especially winter time, but in the summer 14-15 days off per month and some short haul flights can be expected. I don't believe there are any short haul flights from BHX though...maybe they'll send you to MAN/LGW for a few over the summer but I have no idea.

I find it hard to believe that Thomson would hire direct onto the 787 ?

Dual flying 737 and 787. F/O’s only. Make of that what you will.

Not all the non-type rated are being assigned dual fleet. Some of them 787 all year.

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Originally Posted by pudoc (Post 10166598)

Not all the non-type rated are being assigned dual fleet. Some of them 787 all year.

787 all year but dual basing is it not? Winters in Scandi and Summers in the UK.

For anyone about to make the transition to TUI, especially those part of the mass exodus from the regional Q400 operator, you are making the right decision. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by SEBBES (Post 10167076)

Yes indeed, but I’m talking about dual FLEET not dual base.

Dual fleet is a trial, and one that’s been tried before several times. 78 winter, 73 Summer. At the minute, the training department can’t keep people
in check on one type never mind two. It’s a bright idea to keep costs down and reduce the Winter/Summer imbalance especially on the 73 fleet. The thought of employing staff to actually administer it or promoting trainers to deliver it it won’t of crossed anyone’s mind. Ill be amazed if it actually happens.

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Originally Posted by The Dodo (Post 10169910)

I'm also going onto the 787, as of August. Does anyone have an indication of what an FO would take in variable pay? and how that works out after taxes (I'm lead to believe a part of a part is tax-free). I'm completely lost by the breakdown of hour multiplications etc. and without a roster, have no info to base it off.

Thanks in advance

FDA is just over £4/hr inc. 75p/hr tax free (at the moment) which like most companies is any time you're away from base. Duty Rig is a bit of a mine field however mastered by some of the more savvy boys and girls on the line - they would be able to explain it much better than I! You collect credits which are each converted into cash. Just over £10/hr for each credit for an FO.It varies based on the duty but flying hours it's generally one credit per hour. Cat C airports generate two per hour (won't affect your fleet) while unsociable hours (inbound from Caribbean, outbound going east) generate 1.8 per flight hour.

For example:

01/01 - MAN-BGI 08:30 gate to gate = 8.5 credits
02/01 - BGI-LGW 08:00 gate to gate = 4 duty credits in sociable hours, 4 duty credits earned in unsocial hours = 4 + 7.2 = 11.2 credits

So on that trip you would earn 19.7 credits. As an FO that's roughly £200 from a bullet (plus £4/hr FDA). You also receive credits for standbys, sims, home study etc. There's other formulas also to protect you on a long trip. It's all far too complicated in my opinion but it can be very profitable when compared to many other UK airline systems.

As a new FO on the 78 you could do four bullets a month (at the VERY most), but most people do around three trips with beach/positioning days down route. Dependent on your UK base in the summer there maybe short haul also. The credit system/FDA work exactly the same as it does with long haul.

Hope this helps!

Put simply for an FO work on about an extra 16-18k per year on top of salary for all the extra flight allowances. Probably a bit more for the long-haul fleet. Perhaps 18-20k. Even more if you do overtime throughout the year.

Has anyone been called for an assessment in September? Any tips or info would be appreciated.PM

I booked myself onto the 17th - also interested in any recent tips or info not reflected earlier in this thread.

Afternoon,

Have any of you been offered a start date from the latest NTR recruitment?

Cheers

Booked myself too for the assessment, any info on what to expect from the interview, or any package to prepare for it ? Latest pilot jobs maybe ?

for TUI pilots, what roster is like on the 737 ?
what about the 787 roster instead ?

thanks to all !

Been invited to an assessment in a few weeks, anybody done it recently and have any information on what to expect?

Thanks!

Evening all,

Is there assessments going on this week, any info from the latest round?

Hi guys, anyone else been invited for an assessment on 06/11? Any info from people who did the last selection round? Thanks!

Wondering g if any updates on assessments.

What do current employees make of TUI, would you join again??

Anyone who got through to interview this week heard anything yet, good or bad?