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ar1989 9th November 2018 16:03

No nothing yet!! How about anyone else??

busybee123 9th November 2018 20:13

Quite a number of people joining straight onto the 78 by the look of the latest seniority list.

75/76’s being phased out over next three years making way for 73Max and more 787 -9’s

MikeAlpha320 10th November 2018 09:12

Has anyone got an example 787 roster I could see?

Cheers

whereeverimayroam 18th December 2018 19:01

I'm in the hold pool, did the sim in Nov but not heard anything yet!

whitepark109 18th December 2018 21:53

Did the sim in Nov! Starting 757 course in Feb, anyone else?

ndue345 19th December 2018 06:27


Originally Posted by whereeverimayroam (Post 10338735)
I'm in the hold pool, did the sim in Nov but not heard anything yet!

Same case as you.

NG Aviator89 15th January 2019 05:43

Hey guys/gals anyone been for the TR assessment recently PM me any tips of hits would greatly be appreciated

cmav18 28th February 2019 15:28

Talent Pool
 
Is there any NTR people from the Nov assessment still waiting on a start date? I’ve been in the pool since Nov.

FlyingH1gh 28th February 2019 20:42


Originally Posted by cmav18 (Post 10403064)
Is there any NTR people from the Nov assessment still waiting on a start date? I’ve been in the pool since Nov.

Also in the hold pool but no news yet. I did hear some rumours of a management restructure so not sure if that has helped!

ndue345 1st March 2019 07:29


Originally Posted by cmav18 (Post 10403064)
Is there any NTR people from the Nov assessment still waiting on a start date? I’ve been in the pool since Nov.

Apparently, nothing has been planned until Autumn..

FlyingH1gh 17th March 2019 11:14

Hi all,

Is anyone able to help with some questions for a potential new joiner?

- How does the rostering system work in basic terms?
- Is anyone able to share some 787 rosters for new FO's? And is this location specific i.e. does Manchester differ to Gatwick?
- expected time to LHS? I appreciate this can vary significantly.

Thank you in advance for any replies. FH

HardLanding1 17th March 2019 11:39


Originally Posted by FlyingH1gh (Post 10421361)
Hi all,

Is anyone able to help with some questions for a potential new joiner?

- How does the rostering system work in basic terms?
- Is anyone able to share some 787 rosters for new FO's? And is this location specific i.e. does Manchester differ to Gatwick?
- expected time to LHS? I appreciate this can vary significantly.

Thank you in advance for any replies. FH

1- The rostering system is massively outdated compared to other airlines, but once your roster is published it's set and they can't do any significant changes without your permission. There is a bidding system, but I'm not sure it's ever given anyone what they want. It certainly hasn't for me, and I've not met anyone singing it's praises.

2 - In winter imagine a mix of trips from bullets (1 night) to week long trips, with a lot of positioning to Scandi land. Some trips are great e.g. 1 week downroute in LIR or CMB, others are grim (I have no idea how 21hrs down-route in Thailand is even legal). There's lots of positioning around the Caribbean too in a Jetstream or CRJ, which can be fun on short hops, tedious on longer ones. In summer it's more bullets on the 787, but if you're a new starter you won't see summer on a 787 for a few years as they're dual-fleeting people onto 737 for summers (They want to eventually make this dual-fleeting standard). 737 summers are brutal, expect 6 on 2 off with deep nights and transitions, the 737s saving grace is exceptionally quiet winters, however you'll be going back onto the 787 for winter to ensure you're busy!

3- Massively varies, I hear of people getting it at around 6 years on 737, 12+ on 787. Keep in mind that if you take LHS 737 after 6 years, you'll have to wait until your turn to get LHS 787 (It's not a fast track), although they may offer dual fleet again, so you get long haul in the winters if you're willing to sacrifice your life for some LH. Captain's payscales are calculated by time in rank, not time in company, so an earlier command is probably more profitable than holding out for 787 LHS. All fleets are on the same payscale.

Any other questions fire them my way, if you don't want to ask something publicly feel free to PM.

FlyingH1gh 17th March 2019 13:44


Originally Posted by HardLanding1 (Post 10421385)
1- The rostering system is massively outdated compared to other airlines, but once your roster is published it's set and they can't do any significant changes without your permission. There is a bidding system, but I'm not sure it's ever given anyone what they want. It certainly hasn't for me, and I've not met anyone singing it's praises.

2 - In winter imagine a mix of trips from bullets (1 night) to week long trips, with a lot of positioning to Scandi land. Some trips are great e.g. 1 week downroute in LIR or CMB, others are grim (I have no idea how 21hrs down-route in Thailand is even legal). There's lots of positioning around the Caribbean too in a Jetstream or CRJ, which can be fun on short hops, tedious on longer ones. In summer it's more bullets on the 787, but if you're a new starter you won't see summer on a 787 for a few years as they're dual-fleeting people onto 737 for summers (They want to eventually make this dual-fleeting standard). 737 summers are brutal, expect 6 on 2 off with deep nights and transitions, the 737s saving grace is exceptionally quiet winters, however you'll be going back onto the 787 for winter to ensure you're busy!

3- Massively varies, I hear of people getting it at around 6 years on 737, 12+ on 787. Keep in mind that if you take LHS 737 after 6 years, you'll have to wait until your turn to get LHS 787 (It's not a fast track), although they may offer dual fleet again, so you get long haul in the winters if you're willing to sacrifice your life for some LH. Captain's payscales are calculated by time in rank, not time in company, so an earlier command is probably more profitable than holding out for 787 LHS. All fleets are on the same payscale.

Any other questions fire them my way, if you don't want to ask something publicly feel free to PM.

Thanks for the reply - very helpful!
It sounds like the rostering is changing to get the most out of everybody, can I assume that means 900 hours a year is to be expected?

HardLanding1 17th March 2019 14:20

I can’t say for sure as I don’t know if many people have done a full 12months dual fleeting without taking 1 or 2 months off the line for a type rating (or 2!). However I think 900hrs is a target they will aim for and hit!

I won’t say too much for reasons of anonymity but I worked a lot less at my previous LoCo. However the crews are great, and the company has a very personal feel about it which is a nice change compared to some of the larger airlines.

kindupnorth 17th March 2019 17:32

Guys and Girls, Does anybody knows if a 3 year payment of 7k is required if you apply for a type rated position on the 737/787 and are already
rated on the 73 but get given the 787 to start with essentially putting you in a NTR position or is it just bond if you leave of 7k for 3 years


The Foss 17th March 2019 17:55

I don’t think it’s a 7k upfront payment but rather a 7k deduction in your first year. Bizarrely that was the case even if joining onto the same fleet you were currently rated on, which is probably the most expensive OCC around!?
I stand to be corrected but I believe all the contracts now have a detail written that you could be based in the Nordics for up to 6 months per year as well?

FlyingH1gh 18th March 2019 22:25


Originally Posted by HardLanding1 (Post 10421499)
I can’t say for sure as I don’t know if many people have done a full 12months dual fleeting without taking 1 or 2 months off the line for a type rating (or 2!). However I think 900hrs is a target they will aim for and hit!

I won’t say too much for reasons of anonymity but I worked a lot less at my previous LoCo. However the crews are great, and the company has a very personal feel about it which is a nice change compared to some of the larger airlines.

Thank you for the PM - very helpful! I tried to respond but don't think its sent, might have to clear your inbox/sent items.

whereeverimayroam 19th March 2019 15:52

I've been offered the 787 in LGW for June. Do any of the current employees know if pilots mainly commute to LGW (obviously one that don't live in the south east)? I live in the southwest so I would be looking to get on the 737 short haul somewhere in this area in the future!

Mr Angry from Purley 20th March 2019 14:25


Originally Posted by HardLanding1 (Post 10421385)
1- The rostering system is massively outdated compared to other airlines, but once your roster is published it's set and they can't do any significant changes without your permission. There is a bidding system, but I'm not sure it's ever given anyone what they want. It certainly hasn't for me, and I've not met anyone singing it's praises.

I understand Tui use Jeppesen - same system as BA / VS to my knowledge and certainly not outdated to what other UK AOC's use. Can't comment about bidding - speak to the Company / Union?
It might be me but there is a lot on whinging from Pilots on the BA thread , and now TUI which i'd have thought tbh anywhere else is going to be worse apart from say VS/Easy.
Just a sign of the times I guess....

theboeingpilot 12th July 2019 03:04

Hi all,

Thinking of applying for the current recruitment phase, I’m 787 rated and previous 73.

what can you expect take home pay flying summer 73 and winter 78 on full time contract?

Thanks

G1991 12th July 2019 12:46


Originally Posted by theboeingpilot (Post 10516471)
Hi all,

Thinking of applying for the current recruitment phase, I’m 787 rated and previous 73.

what can you expect take home pay flying summer 73 and winter 78 on full time contract?

Thanks

After the first year with a £7000 reduction roughly £4500-£5000/m net for an average working FO. Usually slightly more on the 78 than 73 because of the trips and how duty rig is weighted. If you throw in flexi (overtime) however much you want! Many guys go into the six figures if you work the system...

theboeingpilot 12th July 2019 13:09

Great, thanks for the info and reply G1991

MikeAlpha320 28th July 2019 00:52

Hi guys, are people actually being dual rated 73/78?

DooblerChina 28th July 2019 12:02


Originally Posted by Sempre Volando (Post 10528227)
Any current Tui pilots know which regional bases are the least popular? It seems there is some upcoming recruitment into regional bases only and wondering what the options might be. Thanks.

Newcastle & Cardiff

vrb03kt 28th July 2019 13:08


Originally Posted by MikeAlpha320 (Post 10530156)
Hi guys, are people actually being dual rated 73/78?

Only if based at LGW/MAN/BHX, summer 737 winter 787.

Daily Dalaman Dave 29th July 2019 11:31

What is the current typical time to command with TUI?

MikeAlpha320 29th July 2019 11:49

So there is no 787 all year round positions?

The Foss 29th July 2019 16:41


Originally Posted by MikeAlpha320 (Post 10531234)
So there is no 787 all year round positions?

you have to apply internally, know people who got full time 787 in 6-12 months

SEBBES 6th August 2019 11:22


Originally Posted by The Foss (Post 10531403)

you have to apply internally, know people who got full time 787 in 6-12 months

It is possible, although those would have had to have joined with a 737 type rating and therefore only be type frozen for 12 months, as opposed to a 3 year type freeze for NTR joiners going onto the 737. Otherwise only bidding for dual 737/787 could perhaps get you onto the 78 that quickly, although not all year round.

flyboy146 11th August 2019 09:32

Hi. What are the chances of getting BRS as a base as a new joiner?

FlyingH1gh 11th August 2019 13:15


Originally Posted by flyboy146 (Post 10542354)
Hi. What are the chances of getting BRS as a base as a new joiner?

It's a small base but it was offered in the most recent round of new starters. If you don't get it straight away you can bid for it as soon as you join.

flyboy146 11th August 2019 18:53

Thank you!

G-IZMO 14th August 2019 10:53

NCL Roster
 
Hi all,

if anyone has an indicative NCL FO roster for summer they’d be prepared to give me (not all details, just destinations and duty times) by PM i’d Be very grateful.

Cheers
G

hec7or 15th August 2019 20:30


What is the current typical time to command with TUI?
deafening silence......

nosmo king 16th August 2019 08:40

Currently about 6 years.

Beakor 16th August 2019 10:12

Some pilots with joining dates of early 2013 are pencilled in for command courses this winter. Don’t think you can infer from that, that pilots joining now can expect the same in 2025. Although it’s unlikely to be earlier than that, it could be considerably later.

SeaBreeze1 10th October 2019 13:23

50 ex TCX skippers to be employed in time for S20

pudoc 10th October 2019 13:28


Originally Posted by SeaBreeze1 (Post 10591140)
50 ex TCX skippers to be employed in time for S20

I imagine there are some very unhappy FOs waiting for their command. BALPA strikes again.

plikee 10th October 2019 13:30


Originally Posted by pudoc (Post 10591142)


I imagine there are some very unhappy FOs waiting for their command. BALPA strikes again.

Does it matter? I thought the process is still based on seniority.

Akrapovic 10th October 2019 14:35


Originally Posted by plikee (Post 10591143)
Does it matter? I thought the process is still based on seniority.

It does matter if 50 people walk in above you . . .


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