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hapzim 24th December 2014 08:14

Not quite Pinhead, all CR's / demotions cancelled, this is just to fill the gap of people leaving of their own accord, as when the turbulence started CV's went out and offers came back. Maybe a few more required yet.

A4 24th December 2014 09:19

But presumably people were happy to put up with all the negatives before....otherwise they would already be in the ME without having their hand forced? I know of some who have made the leap and HATE it and are actively looking to return (some already in hold pools).

I sympathise with those who have no choice (I've been made redundant before but managed to stay in the UK) - and I wish you nothing but luck and good fortune.

ATIS 24th December 2014 10:40

All recent leavers have a 4yr right to return clause, so a few can goto the sandpit, make a load of money and return to their previous seniority level. Albeit initially in the RHS.

I seriously doubt those leaving for BA will return though.

The Mixmaster 4th January 2015 17:10

Anyone on the inside got any gen with regard this job posting?

First Officer Recruitment with Monarch | 1401408524

If you click through to their site there's actually no link to the application. How is life in MON post the Greybull bailout? I'm well aware the t's and c's are nowhere near what they used to be, but day to day has there been much change in rostering and quality of work/life balance etc. Cheers in advance :ok:

Superpilot 4th January 2015 17:54

Last comms from HR pasted below:


Subject : MONARCH 2014/2015 PILOT RECRUITMENT
Sender : *****************
Date Posted : 05-Oct-2014 ********


Good morning

I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us. We are now writing to
advise you there will be no further recruitment taking place for the remainder of 2014 or early 2015 due to some
restructuring taking place in the business, therefore, your details will now remain on hold for a period of 12 months
after which time any new pilot recruitment/vacancies will need to be reapplied for via your online accounts. Should
you have found alternative employment since your original application, I would be most grateful if you could advise me
accordingly so that we may keep our records up to date.

We are sorry to disappoint you but should the situation change we will of course be back in contact with you. In the
meantime, if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me but I thank you for your continued
interest in the Monarch Group.

Regards

M****************

Alsacienne 4th January 2015 18:52


Good morning

I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us.
This sounds very strange ... lacks punctuation (its been) plus grammar tense (it has been), plus the opening 'I hope you are well'.

The sender seems to be dancing between 'I' and 'we/our' later on in the communication, and it all sounds very bland.

Are you SURE that this came from Monarch or has their HR department been taking lessons from some Nigerian cousins?

tubby linton 4th January 2015 19:13

The short answer to your question mixmaster would be No.We still have the same crap rostering system and random work patterns.
I am not surprised that HR have cocked up the application process. The shambles they created over the last few months and crass distrubution of emails to those who were facing compulsory redundancy must have made them the laughing stock of the airline industry.

If the HR director had any professional pride she should have taken responsibility for her department's failures and resigned but she contimues to oversee her failing department. Transferring the entire department to Lagos would be an improvement.

The letter above is genuine and reminds me of an email that was sent on behalf of the Chief Pilot a few months ago to the pilots.It is an accurate representation of the ability of the departments which have failed to make the company profitable yet somehow cling onto their jobs.

The next event for the pilots is the mass transfer to part year working and another pay cut (10%)in May.
You can probably get a feeling for the current level of morale from this post.

ZeBedie 4th January 2015 22:48

I think it's a further 15 % pay cut. And yes, morale is through the floor.

tubby linton 4th January 2015 23:30

Zebedie is correct-15.4% reduction on salaries.I would not be surprised if Monarch try to offer any new joiners even worse terms and conditions.

mesh 5th January 2015 06:28

Nope, she will probably get a medal

Superpilot 5th January 2015 07:47

Less than 2 years to go from one of the most sought after employers to one to avoid.

FANS 5th January 2015 11:39

A completely different business now - is the 15% paycut a surprise?

tubby linton 5th January 2015 11:44

The 15% is not a surprise as it reflects the move to part year working, but it is the second pay cut in less than a year. For senior pilots this amounts to a total cut of 45%. The airline is now recruiting pilots to replace some of those it paid to leave the business in the last few months.

brakedwell 5th January 2015 11:45

Even senior pilots will be on pay to fly if this goes on much longer :ugh:

RHINO 5th January 2015 12:54

Tubby Linton, that is not strictly correct. There are people still to leave in April with the redundancy payoff however before they go we will have recruited.....

Right off to find the big picture...:sad:

ATIS 5th January 2015 12:58

Personally I believe/hope that we'll be back to 100% by winter 2016. The bleeding of cash had to be halted in these winter months, and unfortunately the staff were sitting ducks, easy targets. :{

Our saviours are going to need a return on their investment. So winter schedules are required to be built up in the name of efficiency. I'm sure pilots will then need to fly 900hrs per yr.

But then again, I could be completely wrong:ugh:

tubby linton 5th January 2015 13:14

Rhino, I Was referring to the current shortage of FOs against the FTE requirement ,without any additions of pilots still to leave. I am not sure how many are swimming in the BA holding pool but I forsee a constant requirement to recruit replacments for them over the next twelve months. The training department are going to be very busy.

flydog 5th January 2015 13:48

is this the correct thread?
 
So, as per the advert via flight Int, are they hiring right now or not?

MonarchOrBust 5th January 2015 14:08

Based on the information going around concerning pay cuts, I think we're about to see the first ever Airbus Direct Entry First Officer position paying less than £35,000. Take home pay £2,000 per month. What a 3 year London bus driver takes home.

Waldo 5th January 2015 14:12

Yes they are trying to recruit!


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