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thetimesreader84 20th June 2017 13:25

Did we decide if the Lifeguard is back on duty, yanking people out of the pool, or was it just un poisson rouge?

MikeAlpha320 20th June 2017 15:43

Will be very interesting if they've given out some 777 dates after last months email!

bobbyboblington 20th June 2017 16:28

Is there any more information or are we stuck with 2 word answers?

RexBanner 20th June 2017 16:37

To be fair I already posted this a couple of pages ago and someone else from Flybe has backed me up so I didn't really see the need to expand any more.

JaxofMarlow 20th June 2017 16:59


Originally Posted by HidekiTojo (Post 9807342)
Where pays more? Emirates? Jet2.com? TCX? Norwegian? Ryanair? Easy? the BA package is extremely well publicised and the competition to get a job here is intense. not making excuses for the fall in T&C's but making out like BA is some kind of internment camp is 100% false. it appears that many new joiners are happy to come on here and complain about a job they've been in for only a couple of years, they are probably the same people congratulating themselves on instagram immediately upon starting the job.

You truly are a bit of a wally. Strike Norwegian and add Monarch and you are on track. Like others have mentioned I would have had to take a pay drop to come to BA. Some newish joiners have made very reasonable comments about life at BA but I do not believe any have said anything that infers it is an internment camp. Quite the opposite. These are not spotty newbies. Many are very experienced pilots who have built hours and experience elsewhere and to be treated to your brand of arrogance is a tad annoying.

akindofmagic 20th June 2017 17:15


Where pays more? Emirates? Jet2.com? TCX? Norwegian? Ryanair? Easy?
I'm at one of those (and used to be at another) and BA would be an absolute monster hit in terms of financial package.

The Blu Riband 20th June 2017 17:40


Originally Posted by JaxofMarlow (Post 9807787)
You truly are a bit of a wally.

Please clarify.
Are you comparing starter salaries, or top end captain salaries?
How does a 10 yr BA SH capt compare to 10 yr at Easy or Ryanair?


Why would a relatively senior "Lowcost" capt want to go to BA anyway?
BA is a good choice for most youngish or junior pilots - but was never an obvious career move for established people, even 10-20 years ago!

Genuine questions!

akindofmagic 20th June 2017 17:54

I think that the pull of long haul is still very strong for a lot of people in the same boat as me (although not me personally) i.e. young-ish short haul captains.

However, with the current exchange rate I net £8000 per month, I'm part time, with a comparatively very good pension. The maths doesn't stack up for me with BA, but (perhaps fortunately) I've never had to make the decision of whether to leave and go to BA!

HidekiTojo 20th June 2017 18:20

Obviously comparing a time served captains package to a year 1 BA FO is stupid and by doing so you allow us all to see that you are pretty stupid. The point you completely miss is that a pilot joining BA makes that decision for themselves and all the required information is readily available so if you are unhappy you only have one person to blame.

Insulting me only confirms that what I say has some truth to it.

Desk pilot gave a great example of how BA offers a whole host of options for pilots to make the job work for them. If you can't make the most of it then again you only have one person to blame or it simply isn't the right job for you so you should leave. All the other airlines are hiring so what is your Excuse?

T&Cs well BA pilots are probably the most represented bunch around so if not already join balpa and fight for your oh so much deserved improvements there Mr year 2 BA first officer.

thetimesreader84 20th June 2017 18:23

Not wanting to distract from the "is BA better than a LoCo" debate (answer; it depends), can we get back to the awarding of a 777 course? Is this just a one off (i.e. BA were running a 777 course anyway, and had a gap to fill) or is it the start of something a bit bigger?

bobbyboblington 20th June 2017 18:50


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 9807772)
To be fair I already posted this a couple of pages ago and someone else from Flybe has backed me up so I didn't really see the need to expand any more.

Fair enough, apologies I missed that in the thread.

BASHLH 20th June 2017 19:27

777 Course
 
Sorry to be the party pooper but I've just read on the BA Yammer Pilot Recruitment & FPP page that NS has confirmed that the 777 course rumour is NOT true.

Stay positive tho as I'm sure it won't be too long before things move again.

basiljet 20th June 2017 21:35

Thanks BASHLH that's nice to know I'm sure for all us hold pool lot.

thetimesreader84 20th June 2017 22:02

Thanks for the clarification. A bit disheartening, but better to be in the pool - especially in this heat!

bobbyboblington 21st June 2017 09:14

I heard exactly the same from someone at the front of the queue. No thanks to whoever sparked this, it only makes a difficult situation worse.

polepilot 21st June 2017 15:22

I on the contrary am grateful to those that hear rumours and take the time to fill us in on here, no one knows what they hear is 100% accurate!

VJW 21st June 2017 16:29

No but Rex's tone would have you believe he was the one in BA making those decisions.

RexBanner 21st June 2017 16:32

Sorry if I got this one wrong guys but it is a rumour network after all. I was having breakfast with a friend the other day who gave me that info, then another Flybe person came along and "confirmed" the rumour. I don't know how they've got their wires crossed so badly but it is strange that both have heard the same thing. Anyway best of luck to you guys in the pool, hope you hear something positive soon.

bobbyboblington 22nd June 2017 16:34

Fair enough, as polepilot said it's not called PPTruNe.

HighPi 28th June 2017 22:29

Apparently recruitment is going to pick up again (a lot) next year, but not sure which fleets.


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