Michael O'Leary talking about pilots
 

Michael O'Leary talking about pilots!

Watch from about 26 mins onward:-

RTE Late Late Show - Michael O'Leary

Like the way he says pilots only work 18 hours per week - I wish!!

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

900 hours per annum (the legal limit) divided by 52 = 17.3

No mention of standby time, reporting time, vacation time etc etc etc

Typical O'Leary twisting the facts for headlines

BT, I don't want to argue about MOL but 900 divided by 52 gives me about 17, not 117...

Have another beer ;)

what about dividing your duty hours by 48, since most people enjoy about 4 weeks leave, then the result is closer to 40 hours a week than 17.

MOL hates pilots, staff, aviation authorities, politicians and customers. But he's entertaining.

Peacocks. That's a good one. :oh:

Ryanair pilots; join IALPA and then let the battle lines be drawn.

A free ticket for everyone in the audience!!!!!!!

A few years ago, at the company annual dinner I won 2 free tickets on Ryanair.

With the cost of phone calls to Dublin to book and airport taxes etc. the total cost was about 70 pounds. I could have bought the tickets for less.

MoL gives nothing away!!!

However he's right that Ryanair have brought the cost of flying down so that almost any body can now afford to fly.
Unfortunately that includes a lot of undesirable and rude people.

I only fly Ryanair if I have no other choice.

You have to admit that he's a brilliant orator and self-publicist. There are of course precedents, other people in history of whom one could say the same.

Reminds me of the fact that if I (or Mr. O'Leary) screw up in the workplace nobody gets hurt.
However those "lazy" pilots have to have a slightly(!) more attentive to detail work ethic....

Last year I did 800hrs (F/O). Add on the 45mins prior (official, but 1hr 15m in reality) and 30mins after, gives me 1800hrs duty with no allocated breaks or lunch period. I am then forced to take 6 weeks a year hols. Meaning the average working year (due to our roster pattern) means I work 10 months and one week.

We work normally 3 weeks a month (again due to the roster pattern). Meaning my average working week is 58hrs. ..........not counting standby's and extra duty for delays, cancellations, etc.

I normally get €80.5 per hour for my 800hrs. But when you factor in the extra (official) report times then I am actually only earning the equivalent of €35 per hour for my total time at the 'office'. :(

Hes an idiot. What his staff say about him is much worse. Roll on IALPA.

I guess there's a specially imaginative Blarney Stone which can only be kissed by those who don't mind talking ABSOLUTE :mad:

Nevertheless, I do admire successful entrepreneurs.

The worst thing to have happened to aviation was this ....thing.Has made hundreds and hundreds of millions for himself and the Ryans whilst screwing his staff with all his low life scumbag ways.Still the only company in Ireland that isn't bankrupt so must be a genius.A shining example of 80s management theory gone wrong.

"Like the way he says pilots only work 18 hours per week - I wish!!"

It is a legal requirement to keep a record of annual duty hours of all pilots. Thus this claim can be easily challenged, and the correct data published, under a freedom of information request to IAA. If IALPA was so minded it might have a good PR moment against RYR. It could then ask the open question of "if they are telling porkies about this, what else might they be telling porkies about?" That's politics.

His disdain for what should be amonsgt the most valued of his employees is the best advert for IALPA yet. If RYR pilots don't join, they deserve what they get!

Ryanair Pilots
 

MOL has a great way of motivating the pilots by comparing them to glorified taxi drivers.
I can see why a lot of the guys at the pointy end are brassed off.

Showing such disrespect for your own workforce will turn against you on the long run.
What is MOL trying to achieve?
A massive walkout?
A strike?
Everyone joining IALPA? (they should)

I agree. This is the best free advert that IALPA could have only dreamt about.

The guy clearly has done something right to make Ryanair in to what they are today.

I'd have thought the business be more successful if he had the pilots on their side and not using slating them as glorified taxi drivers on a complex taxi.

The excuse as to why they charge 50 euros for the job application was dreadful and just another !!!!ty way of getting money out of the would-be's who are going to jump and pay for it.

Got a few mates at Ryanair now who say after the novelty wearing off of the jet flying they regret making the move to go there. Each of them trying to go to the sandpit now because they're fed up with the lifestyle working for MOL.

Did make me laugh tho with the customer comments and reasons for wanting to take out the toilets because "the London underground is safe to stand on":ugh:

Folks, you are pissing and moaning on the wrong forum. MOL has made this claim many a time over the past 5 years. Many a pilot on PPrune are aware that MOL is equivalent to a floating !!!! in a punch bowl. It's time to fight back... words with words.

Why not petition RTE for equal TV time? The little gnome own RTE? Provide charts indicating flight and duty times. Leave emotions out of the presentation and stick only to the facts and keep it strictly business. Don't sink to that little pissant's level. It's the best way to get the message out to the public. You guys should counter each claim made that that putz in every media available to the FR pilots.

I doubt the FR pilot would come close to being fired. You think FR would want to risk another retribution law suit:=?

Good luck and go get him:ok:.

And when O'leary moves on what then?

I would be surprised if his replacement also thinks more of his horses than he does of his own workforce.

He is a one man band!

Medias Attention
 

If you have nothing to do then watch the man.... Entertainment with no substance. The Media who gives him too much attention is as well guilty that the BS he is distributing makes alot of waves. So counteract and invite the Media also to a Press Conference held at..... any place you want and you get the same attention as he. IALPA does nót help you, take your destiny in your own hands.

"Pilots are like glorified taxi drivers" "Aer Lingus pilots are like overpaid under worked peacocks" "ideal customers are those with a pulse and a credit card"

That's how much he thinks of his staff and customers!!

It's all in the interview.

Kernow, I don't believe your calculations are correct. 1800 hours hours of duty is not possible.

FR Pilots...

Did ANYONE ever actually get the £60 application fee back as he seemed to think was standard practice?

All I got was a bill for another £25k odd and a base in the middle of !!!!sville :rolleyes:

To correct a few of you, he said "pilots fly 18 hours a week" never said anything about work!!

At a certain stage of the interview Ryan turbridy asks does he know any pilots?
MOL came back with a comment about the only pilot he knows is the head of IALPA
only to realise he was sued before and could be again so he changed the subject..

FR pilots the trend in our work has been on a slope for 10 to 15 years why would you think it would get any better.
Look at our peers in easy jet they are on envious contracts compared to us ask yourself why?

JOIN IALPA ! THE RYANAIR PILOTS UNION !

Kernow, I earn €9 an hour in a supermarket, wanna swap?

Binder

Come off it Dave, all airline management hate the aircrew.

Spud

I love your post, I do, I think you've hit the true state of the industry, spot on mate!:D

Now, where's the thread about what pilots think about Chief Executives?

Kernow 101 - as well as 45 bef/30 after, you are forgetting the most stressful part(s) of the day, those 25min "rests" (I guess MOL would call them)

Widered - "enviable" is the word you are looking for :rolleyes:

Shiver - do you really suggest comparing us (you included ?) with shelf stackers? if so, please F.O. to another website, as you will be in for a bit of abuse here :=

Line 4,position 3 "Gobsh@te"

DDee....best post on this thread....take a bow....

Its still a mystery to me;

why haven't Ryanair pilots joined IALPA?

Why???

You are right. In my haste I added the extra work per hour instead of per day. So it would nearer half that at 987! .....teach me to try and post with a stinking hangover:oh::yuk:

I knew it! The hats really bother him:)

Kernow, I earn €9 an hour in a supermarket, wanna swap?
 

Shiver. You really should have worked harder at school!
I suppose that you think that the consequences of being hit by a rogue supermarket trolley compare with a bad day at the "office" for a pilot?:confused:

I sympathise with my fellow professionals at FR.

I use that term loosely.... Because your all taxi drivers driving a complex taxi! Lol

His terminology of calling pilots that doesn't bother me in the slightest, it's his attitude towards his staff that work within the airline. Can 3000 glorified taxi drivers be more than just 1 ******** in a cheap suit from primark?

I don't work in Ireland, work for another UK carrier and member of balpa. I'd urge you all at FR to stand together for once and say no to his cavalier attitude.

Awra best lads!

And btw....the prospect of flying new shiny 737-800's looks great to me too but I just feel for the guys working for that airline with all the horror stories I hear

Don't expect any support, with the exception of your group, family, and family pet until you guys organize, and get your message out to the public.

You all are so close. How much more abuse and abasing can you take? What's it going to take before you start, yes I say again, start to gain your self respect as pilots?

Organize and organize now!

Take back your airline and good luck!

How about this:

The next time MOL is on RTE ask the interviewer to ask the following;

1. If pilots only fly 18 hours a week then perhaps MOL will sign a statement on air and binding to all flight crews, that when they reach 18 hours flight time in any period of seven days they can go home.

2. Ask him to tell all the viewing public if it is true that all Ryanair flights never fly anywhere in cloud without radar cover.

3. Ask him to read out all the checks we have to do during turnarounds, line by line with a watch running.

4. Ask him to read out some of Ryanair safety reports and safety audits where pilots have missed things like checks and other aircraft.

Perhaps some pretty little diagrams illustrating some of the above could be used so that MOL could wave his fingers about all over them, pointing out where black is white and so forth.

He may be a little s**t, but you FR guys only have yourselves to blame!

You pay him to type rate you, you even pay him to interview you, you effectively pay him to treat you like dirt, you are in a sh1tp1le of your own making. Your only ways out are to leave or to get organised!

MOL is really such a nice person: he was looking to be so much involved to raise money for charity. It almost made me cry. No doubt that with such a spirit, RYR staff must really be very well looked after. I would believe that a considerable part of his working day is dedicated to help and try to make RYR a better place to live.