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Callsign Kilo 31st January 2012 14:16

1. When is the IAG deal for bmi forecasted to be concluded?
2. When the deal is concluded, bmi will not become BA overnight. There is no evidence of bmi planning to relinquish their services by a particular date.
3. Early signs indicate that the 340 bmi pilots will initially be on a separate seniority list with PP34. New joiners will also be on PP34 and integrated to the bottom of the Mainline list.
4. While this doesn't look like good news for the recruitment of holdpoolers, (however I reckon you are now closer to finding out) I'd be more concerned with the other excuses that BA will reason ie APD, economic decline, war in the middle east.
5. I have no idea of BA's recruitment requirements for their current fleet, keeping bmi as a separate issue for now. Added to this there seems to be absolutely little indication about the future of their LGW operation and namely the 737 fleet. There seems to be a lot of 737 rated people floating around in the pool doing very little.

That's all I know.

FlyingTinCans 31st January 2012 14:21

The takeover of BMI was always going to be bad news for us waiting to get in the door.

However the fact 300 pilots are now going to be ahead of us on the BA seniority list (in a year to 2 years time when integration is finally complete), is the better outcome (in context) than us being put at the bottom of a seniority list in BA Express.

Now the deal is done hopefully the recruitment wheels will start turning again, even a 34pp scale with a 5% increase in work and 2 days reduced leave is still FAR better than what im getting at my current employer.

The wait is killing me

nrn 31st January 2012 15:02

Hi all,

I also got the invite for day 1, however, whenever I log in I get straight to the summary page.
A personal friend of mine is allready in the holding pool and he said there should be an link to book my interview (eventhough there are no days available).

Is this the same for the other guys who are waiting for day one?

ETOPS 31st January 2012 15:08

There was an in-house on-line Managers chat at BA today. The subject of DEP, Mil and Cadets was discussed in some detail - actual numbers etc.

Forgive me for not immediately rushing those facts into print as I'm not certain they are for public consumption and I certainly don't have permission to.

I will see if anyone else is brave enough to post them - if not I will ask for permission.

Deano777 31st January 2012 15:28

Well don't give us numbers, just tell us whether we can expect a call or not :O

Fat Dog 31st January 2012 15:59

Does anyone know if there are any 76 rated people currently in the hold pool?

ETOPS 1st February 2012 06:40

Deano777

Are you currently in the hold pool?

LHRbound 1st February 2012 07:29

Thanks for the heads up
 
Hi ETOPS,

I am in the pool, 320 and 737 rated, currently 320 in the middle east. Do you have just a broad brush indication of what may be planned for those of us in a similar position?

Thanks, and for what its worth I think the vote was 100% correct, the only way to stave off BA express!

Callsign Kilo 1st February 2012 07:45

A very senior figure (Capt ETOPS) knows something.......the suspense is starting to hurt!

ETOPS 1st February 2012 09:16

Deano777

Actually I would hang on in there. As you are already "in the system" I would guess they will eventually bring you in for the rest of the process - up to you how that results of course ;) There is unlikely to be any fresh DEP recruitment for some time and future plans include getting the FFPs on line when they pass their courses.

FlyingTinCans 1st February 2012 09:46

ETOPS

Any news for us guys who are IN the hold pool?

Im DEP but not type rated on any current BA aircraft

SmilingKnifed 1st February 2012 10:56

Likewise, without wishing to bug anyone (specifically ETOPS, although I think a few of us owe you a beer already) can anyone please forward me a PM or disseminate a bit of information via the hold pool email list.

Non-rated, swimming since early-Dec and hoping to see the shore soon.

ETOPS 1st February 2012 11:40

Gawd :uhoh: wish I'd never said anything..........

Trying to finish a bathroom project this week then got to go to work.

Somebody from the pool who now knows can take over........:ok:

SmilingKnifed 1st February 2012 11:43

Either myself or LHRBound can forward it to the pool email list with your permission.

Best of luck with the bathroom project and thanks again :ok:

ALLOW 1st February 2012 11:52

Thanks ETOPS!!! I'm not going to distract you from your work so I wont PM......thanks for keeping us in the loop!

Could someone who received a PM from ETOPS please please forward on the news to me via PM..... 737 rated pooler.....I hope this ain't bad news!!!

FlyingTinCans 1st February 2012 12:13

So ETOPS can finish his bathroom......

At the BA managment Q&A yesterday a direct question was asked about the current recruitment of DEP/Ex-Mil.

The answer was "we will have positions in due course".

It would seem that the current size of the holdpool means all those in it, plus a few that are currently going through interviews and SIMs should still get course dates.

A seperate email was sent from BA to all holdpoolers a few weeks ago that stated type ratings are currently penciled in all the way up to august and It would seem that the BMI deal has not affected this.

beastman787 1st February 2012 13:34

Hi guys, this is my second time around through the process after having my airbus course chopped as a cadet in 2008. I passed day one again back in September and I missed out on a sim in February as I was working whilst all the slots were snapped up. I've been informed to expect a date in Mar/Apr but any further recruitment news that could be sent via PM would be greatly appreciated. It would be heart breaking to miss out again! BM

billybuds 1st February 2012 14:54

Surely with all the BMI guys coming over there will be a training capacity issue. I am assuming they will all have to do a quick conversion course and a few sectors, and this will take priority over new joiners as they are already on the payroll?

londonmet 1st February 2012 14:57

I think it will be run as BMI until at least the end of this tax year. Full integration will have to take place after a 90 day consolation process at least. Seniority integration and route structure changes won't happen until the summer at the earliest I would have thought.

Fiesler02 1st February 2012 16:01

interview slot's link
 
Hello NRN,
You won't find any links on your account until BA decides so.
In addition you suppose to receive an e-mail that tells you available slots.
So welcome to the limbo of the forgottens.... I've been waiting for a call since last august.
good luck
Fiesler

Flying Wild 1st February 2012 16:06

Phone calls being made this afternoon offering assessments later this month...

Fiesler02 1st February 2012 16:13

Thank you Flying Wild,
but I am quite sure you and the other guys mentioned before that invitation was made only via e-mail.
Phonecall for a direct booking is a new procedures or it happens from time to time?
cheers
Fiesler

Flying Wild 1st February 2012 16:15

Being that there is quite short notice, and only a few slots available, it's probably easier to phone people than send out a mass e-mail. Is it SOP? Who knows.

Fiesler02 1st February 2012 16:26

thank you, I guess it makes sense.
do you know how many slots were available this afternoon?
Today I was flying but I don't have any missed call on my phone so.....:ugh:
Thank you for the info's though:ok:

FlyingTinCans 1st February 2012 16:42

SIM assesments are regularly given out by phone call if the time between you being notified and the date of the SIM is short.

I got an email with about 4 weeks notice, a friend got a phone call with 2 weeks notice.

Good luck to anyone who got an assessment!

Flying Wild 2nd February 2012 12:31

Who knows when the next assessment day may be... are you really willing to risk it?

mesh 2nd February 2012 13:53

Sim phone calls
 
Regarding day 2 slots, I read the post earlier and also thought I had missed a phone call. So I contacted the very helpful recruiting team at BA and was told not to worry, no calls were being made in fact an email just received stated no March sim slots available at the moment due to ongoing training requirements, so I wouldn't worry. If someone has had a call yesterday or today let us know. The very nice lady also informed me that BA allways honour a day 1 or 2 invite so I should deffinately get a sim and day 1's invited should be fine for both stages if passed.

On another point if you have received an invite to attend either and you don't make it due to work etc I personaly don't feel you will get another chance, so go sick or something. Some people wait a long time to get such an invite and some never get it. just a word of advice, good luck

mesh 2nd February 2012 13:56

oops
 
sorry Flying Wild just looked at your post again, perhaps some slots were freed up for end Feb. Update for March at least.:) As I said, if anyone has received a call it would be good to know, cheers

Fiesler02 5th February 2012 16:01

Hi guys,
can anyone be so kind to tell or pm me the phone number of the BA recruiter team?
thanks

Cattivo 10th February 2012 08:45

A320 Roster
 
Moved to Lifestyle.

speedtapeking 11th February 2012 09:54

Anyone out there down at the rivers this coming week (13/2/12) week for day 1 assessment?

Artic Monkey 11th February 2012 12:35

speedtapeking

I'm there on the 14th. All the very best with your assessment.

FlyingTinCans 14th February 2012 12:30

Any start dates recently?

speedtapeking 14th February 2012 17:21

shiney 10 - no its my first shot. just happened to log into my account on ba.com and saw some dates so picked and dived straight in.

anyone got any feed back/pointers etc from last week/this week interviews etc ?

Flying Wild 14th February 2012 19:25

As with any interview, make sure you have quite a few examples to draw on. The questions asked in interview are broadly aligned with the questions you see in this thread and its predecessor. The interviewers aren't looking to trip you up. If you're stumped, there's a handy glass of water on the table which you can sip as you gather your thoughts...

ALLOW 14th February 2012 20:34

Just a quick question did to the guys/gals who attended last weeks selection/sim or very recently.

What time frame did they give you if you were successful?!
Any mention of fleets for this year....i.e long haul etc...

Also would anyone be able to forward me the PM Etops sent around...

Thanks!!!!

Another 14th February 2012 21:11

still waiting for day one slot as well...

one question: where on the login site could i choose a date (once they are available?)
this is after the login on BA Recruitment presumably?

squawkident. 15th February 2012 03:29

Hi guys,

Anybody know when day 1 selection will reopen for civil pilots? At the moment its just for managed/service path. Thanks

Callsign Kilo 15th February 2012 07:17

Word circulating is that it probably wont - not for the foreseeable. The bmi merger has filled a previous void that once existed. I believe this round of recruitment including those in the current pool will be it I'm afraid. Could be wrong, however that appears to be synopsis after the 'yes' vote from the BA pilots.

Chris Griffin 15th February 2012 10:57

"Seriously? Assessments are now issued on a "first come, first serve basis". That stinks a bit.
What happened to the kindly people phoning up offering dates?"

Are you being serious?

Why shouldn't you expect a company the size of BA chase after you for a position for which there are hundreds if not thousands of applicants?

Why should you have to show a bit of dedication and determination in checking the website for assessment dates?

Shiny ten - you have come across quite badly in your last post. Get a grip.


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