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Easy Ryder 28th October 2010 22:51

MFF??!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

a new joiner now would be waiting over 20-25 yrs to fly mix fleet!

Command 10 (if your lucky) -15yrs (more likely)

Of course this could all change if there was a massive fleet order... wouldn't bet on it though

ATC83 30th October 2010 13:03

haha! I guessed so! Don't suppose you know what the monthly take home pay is in year 1 at all do you (roughly)? I'm talking about say a 70-80hr month as average.

ta

MANTFS 12th November 2010 13:15

There is a new Head of Pilot Management in position now so the interview process may change, it used to be a fairly informal affair.

Blighty Pilot 12th November 2010 15:40

Recruitment isn't the Head of Pilot Managements domain. It used to be Deputy Chief Pilots remit but I understand it now falls under the new Head of Trainings responsibility. The gentleman in question has sat on the top floor for many years and has been involved in recruitment for as long as I can remember. Like most things in Monarch I can't see the process changing over night and the current recruitment is likely to be subject to the previous format.

JASPA 12th November 2010 18:31

So where do folks in the pool stand, starting to drown

Rarely 14th November 2010 03:38

Type of q's asked when I joined spotty M (many years ago) all pointed to one thing- Could I sit in the same office as you for 8 hours and not be bored by you!

Seriously - a lot of recent Management and training posts have been interviewed for and HR have got their claws into them so don't be surprised if reasoning and HR type questions appear this year. So be prepared!

However it goes - good luck, despite some of it's failings (and increasingly intensive rostering) it is still one of the happiest company's to work for.

Lubeoil 14th November 2010 04:31

Sorry chaps. Am I missing something? Seems to be a whole 2 page thread on Monarch recruitment however when I look on their website it states that there is a "recruitment freeze" for pilots. Is there actually any recruitment or is this all speculation?

Serenity 15th November 2010 13:00

What interviews??
No application form to fill out on website, or are you just hoping??

adwjenk 15th November 2010 13:26

Rumour has it that the recruitment has all been done via word of mouth!
The 10 or so pilots they are looking at taking onto the 9/3 contracts, will be type rated pilots, then Ctc cadets if they cannot get enough TR pilots.

I guess it guys and girls who know someone in the company, or happened to send their cv in at the right time, and they are airbus rated! Nothing appeared on the company website, I check nearly every day but nothing has changed in months!

Would give me right nut to work for Monarch in EGCC, but 2200TT and Boeing rated I won't stand a chance!

Congrats and good luck to everyone going for interviews!

ATC83 15th November 2010 14:51

How easy is it to change between bases once you are in Monarch? Also I asked previously, but just wondering what the realistic time to command is at MON

Ta

ATIS 15th November 2010 15:11

Base transfers are usually accomplished after couple of years service. And its usually the CTC guys who are asking for the transfers as they are not given a choice on joining. However as stated above this years intake are going to MAN for sure. Previously on your application form you had two choices to make. My course of 17 people were all assigned their 1st choice. But that was when Monarch was expanding. Which brings me onto the 2nd question. The last person to get a command completed 3yrs service. But as expansion has halted you're looking at 7-10 yrs.

Captain Spam Can 27th November 2010 13:10

doesnt look like there was any recruitment

MANTFS 27th November 2010 14:42

Why do you say that? - I understand some offers went out yesterday!

partsvn 27th November 2010 16:08

Great Airline. Had 16 happy years with them albeit a while back. Long may they continue in their quiet no nonsense fashion.

Arrestahook 27th November 2010 17:06

ATC83, here we go some of your questions answered, take home pay depends on if you pay into the company pension or not. You have to put in 8.3% of your salary to get a 12.5% contribution from the company. If you put in 10% your take home pay in year one would be about £2800 per month depending on how many flights you did. Even working your tits off you will struggle to to break 3k a month.
Time to command and long haul on the 330 is a moveable feast, five years ago guys were getting onto the long haul fleet within 18 months of joining and as previously stated time to command came down to three years. However with the recession no one has been taken on in the last three years or so and combined with the retirement age increasing to 65 it means there is just no movement in the company, the old boys are onto a good thing and no one can blame them for staying. As a result time to command has gone to about 10 years and Mixed fleet flying is anyones guess. This will all change though as when the market picks up there will always be a batch of FO's who will leave for the legacy airlines, the company will get extra aircraft and all of a sudden you're into a phase of expansion. So I'd say keep positive and keep applying. It's still a good place to work, mainly though due to the guys and gals that work there.

Captain Spam Can 27th November 2010 18:00

so i take it nothing was advertised and it was all word of mouth, as ive been checking flight int., MON webste and pprune for weeks!!:\

Arrestahook 27th November 2010 21:38

I suspect it has spam as they've been talking about the 10-12 joining next year for quite some time so I rekkon they've already been selected, vetted and signed on for next spring, hence no obvious recruitment.
But, Monarch is down one aircraft from summer 08 and the existing crews were very stretched this summer, there is no doubt that there aren't really enough pilots to fill the program, there have been a record number of day off payments this year and no end of flights in the peak weeks weren't crewed till the 11th hour. I think the company are waiting to see what the bookings look like for next year before they decide whether they need the 31st aircraft back on the fleet and the pilots to fly it.
I don't think i'd be shot down by anyone for saying that Monarch will never lead the way in preparing for an upturn, they will only react to it. It is coming however and there will be a requirement for new blood, it was not that long ago that they were taking guys with 600 hours on a dash 8, so even if you're not type rated on the 320, don't worry times will change.

Captain Spam Can 28th November 2010 00:02

Arrestahook, cheers for that update looks like the previous swimmers have been taken out of the pool to dry off and rightly so i guess....good luck to them:ok:

ATC83 28th November 2010 07:12

Thanks Arrestahook

Some very useful info! One thing I notice is that everyone seems pretty happy in MON - these forums are full of moaners in every airline but it seems MON must be good cause I can't find any on here!:ok:

The £2800 you mention - is that on these new 9/3 contracts or is that for a full time wage?

Thanks

flyboyweeksy 28th November 2010 08:39

I believe offers have been sent/acknowledged to the lucky few who will be joining us in March next year on the a320/1 fleet @ MAN


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