Given what most people are saying on here, you sound as if you'll be at the top of their list.

Well there is a post in the wannabes forum from a chap saying he has an interview with 270TT but I can safely say that neither I nor any of my friends in a similar position have heard anything.

I think it comes down to perceived 'mouldability'. A young pup fresh from training is more of a blank canvass than a grisly 30 something instructor with a coupla thousand hours in little aeroplanes. The fact the latter has built up a wealth of aviation related skills and experience may be viewed as secondary in a multi crew environment where procedure is paramount?

VFE.

Is that the procedure where if you the stick shacker activates you pull back on the stick and raise the flaps.....

Being i grizzy 30 something FI I must have been teaching my students wrong this weekend!

Ya know something Timzsta - the closest I have come to ending up in a wooden box in 5 years of instructing was flying with a fresh faced 200hr Oxford grad who almost spun us in on a PFL. They obviously thought that pulling back on the stick in a 45deg decending turn against stall buffet 500 feet AGL was a smart move...

Said whizzkid then capped off the flight by landing with feet squarely on the toe brakes. I learnt about instructing that day!

They have been flying the line with a UK airline for some time now and I'm still dodging the bullets on a daily basis. :{

VFE.

VFE - I found out through a social networking site recently somebody I did a night qualification for 2 years ago is now an FO at lo co, started there in July having paid for a TR. I have applied numerous times to said operator, not even an interview, even with a written recommend from a Training Captain in the company. What hope?

Anyways I enjoyed teaching stalling today, and my IFR trip to Liverpool and back on Friday in a complex single.

VFE and Timzsta

Sadly guys, much as I hate to say it being a self improver myself, after 24 years of instructing ranging from microlights through SEP to MEP then heavy turbo-prop and light jets I have had no real problems with low houred CPL holders, and I would be surprised if I could tell the difference between a 250 hour CPL holder and a 1000 hour VFR instructor if I flew with them on the day after their final line check in a complex multi-crew operation.

The only candidate I ever actually failed on a multi-crew LST was a 1500 hour instructor who crashed twice on a V1 cut. But after a couple of hours of re-training he passed the second time and eventually became a very competent airline captain...everyone has good and bad days whatever their background and experience.

If I was recruiting I would look for actual IFR experience - single crew air taxi and corporate flying helped me when I became an F/O, I don't really think that 3500 hours of ab-initio instructing helped me at all until I became a line trainer and eventually TRI/TRE.

Back on topic if anyone is still interested, no phone call and no PFO letter (yet) - 14000 hrs tt with light and medium jet and turboprop command time well in excess of their requirements. But no point second guessing what they wanted - anyone they select will do them a good job when they finish type and line training.

Thats life...time to move on.

There's always another online application to do...

Absolutely right, life goes on and we must never ever give up!

Good luck to those who did get an interview, feedback on the selection would be welcome for any future recruitment with BACF.

Sound words there excrab.

Rather poor form of me to bring up the 200hr story but it's been another long day of instructing! lol

Onwards and upwards... :)

VFE.

PFO email received today,

960TT, (school hrs + 740hrs F/O on a twin otter).

All hope on LH IT and their selection process now :eek:

Just received the "PFO" 15 minutes ago.

Me too, not even kept on file. Again I'd like to know what exactly they want.......... As previously posted I have command time at LCY - thousands of hours etc

Good luck to all of those successful

I've just got the no thanks too, and wishing me the best of luck in the future.......

Ditto. 176 TT:ok:

PFO for me too, bit a long shot as I'm rated on a wide-body and modular.

From what I've read through so far on here, if I lied and put down I was an Oxford grad, female and from an ethnic minority my chances would have improved drastically.

...
Unfortunately, in this instance, your application has not been successful
...
:ok:

welcome to the club :ok:

I'm in!! (the reject club, that is :{)

Here's the official communique:

Dear Superpilot

Thank you for your application for the position of First Officers E-Jet Series Aircraft as posted on Careers with BA CityFlyer.

Unfortunately, in this instance, your application has not been successful.

Thank you for your interest in BA CityFlyer and we wish you luck with your job search.

Kind regards

The Recruitment Team

BA CityFlyer

Me too:ok::ok: Oh yeah:(

I'm with you...:=

You know things are bad when receiving your PFO feels slightly positive in that they deem you worthy of a response!

Got mine today too. Congrats to everyone else who got their acknowledgment today! :}

VFE.

PFO for me too. Not even retained for future opportunities. Guess the market really is saturated...!!

Good luck to the guys who did get an invite though.

Got my PFO too!!! Well chuffed :ok: nearly got enough PFO's now to wallpaper my downstairs bog :D

Did anybody have a positive reply from BACF?? I had the below:

I am pleased to confirm that your application has been successful at screening stage. However due to the vast amount of applications we received for this position, we were unable to secure you a place on the assessment days.

We would like to keep your application on file should any future assessment days arise in the future. If you situation changes and you no longer wish to remain on hold for a future assessment with us please contact us so we update our records accordingly.

MAB :ooh:

PFO
 

Received with thanks.

@maxalphaboy
yeah I got that one too. Feels a bit strange to be a successful failure :hmm:

me too!!!!:mad:

ahahahaah Excellent :}:}:}

I like the English Humour sometimes. (but sorry for guys affected by this successful failure)

Mine has just landed.
I must admit I am relieved, as becoming a wonnabe Nigel isn't high on my list to be honest.

PAPI-74 ; If your relieved why did you bother applying?

Cos the offer I am now taking wasn't on the table.

anyway been reading the thread with interest, got my PFO also.

Modular
F/O 1500 hrs Jet, FE 7300 hrs, Over 20 years aviation experience and a PFO.:E!!

I wonder if the applicants who got "not interested just now but we'll retain your details if that's OK?" backgrounds are compared to the "PFO, don't darken our door again .... Security!", don't know if any of those pilots would like to outline them?

Training: Modular or Integrated
Hours total to date:
FI qualification: yes or no
Already TR'd, if so what type:
British citizen: yes or no

Would be interesting to see if there was a common factor.

As for me, I got the PFO:

Modular
1,200
No
B757/767
yes

Maxalpha,

I'm just curious to know your experience as you have made future assesments.

Modular?

Cheers

Phenom10:rolleyes:

Got the PFO

Modular
2000 hrs
FI, MEI, IRI
No TR
British

Guys

For the dumb people amongst us (i.e. me), what does PFO stand for?

Thanks :E

PFO - Please F**k Off

Hi Guys,

I know there has been some interest in peoples experience levels, including mine. I have no problem at all sharing. In answer please see below. Sorry to those who on this occasion where not successful.

Training: Modular SSP
Hours total to date: 2000+
FI qualification: No
Already TR'd, if so what type: Q400
British citizen: Yes

I have been flying for 6 years and commercially for 3 years, UK and Europe.

It seems from what I have been reading, in my humble opinion that there is no real standard type of applicant. As always in aviation recruitment I feel it depends on so many factors of which I will never understand.

Hope this insight helps.

Good luck :ok:

PFO. 5300 TT including 2800 turbo prop and 2000 737. Who do you have to blow round here?