And just like the Rapture...

Tuesday vanished without an earth shattering change.

It will come through the second I post this though!

Excitement turning into annoyance!!!

Ditto

It's not funny now, Tuesday lunchtime. Maybe they meant Tuesday lunchtime next week :ugh:

Or next year???:*

Is it a case of no matter how much polish is used it still doesn't shine.

Just received an email from Balpa!!! Announcing dates for member meetings, and that the offer will be despatched asap!!! Feels like something fishy is going on.:ooh:

I got that too... and a note telling me to be in the BHX meeting tomorrow. I don't normally consider going to work on days off, but I think I might just go along and see what they have to say about it.

I'm not really interested in the meetings, I just want the latest offer they promised us. 8 days tomorrow, it must be something monumental to take that long. :rolleyes:

According to unofficial sources, a 364/1 fixed roster and a 12.5% incremental rise over 3 years entirely in M&S vouchers and thankyou notes.

This just in:

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flyingcamel

Love it :ok:

They're being very generous with that single day aren't they:}.

I.m beginning to feel like I'm being manipulatedand it's beginning to pee me off! I just hope it doesn't backfire and a reasonable offer gets rejected for the wrong reasons. Surely everyone has learned that treating us like idiots who can't think for ourselves has not proven a ace strategy so far. Just the facts please.

Do any of you, or anybody you know, think that Jim will have come over all soft and given you a decent offer? Both pay and T&C's? Or one or the other?

Serious question.

The perpetual BS of "we really really really want to improve the rostering and lates to earlies we really do honestly". Well, do it then. It's not hard. Blue Skies or whatever it was/is called. Done.

NOPE, they do NOT want to improve it at all. As evidenced in JF's letter.

The "information gathering" exercise by French and Strong was for their benefit only. They will have developed an offer that will appear to be better but won't be.

Flybe has money, a lot of it too. They don't want you to have it. Frenchy and cronies want to keep it all for themselves.

DO NOT LET THEM.

First post 16th August 2010, 53 pages and counting...

In the time this thread has been running, my employer has installed BALPA representation from nothing and we've got our payrise for 2010 (backdated) and 2011 agreed, payed and spent!

Whilst appreciating the 'big picture' is not given here, but man alive somebody grow some and sort this....

New offer available for balpa member's viewing. Check your emails...

Highlights:
SFO's get £3k payrise. (after completing PCLA)
60 hour weekend.
Contactable days (SDD's) introduced instead of so many pointless standbys.

Just read latest offer which came through this morning.

2% 2010/2011 back dated, 5.2% pay rise for 2011/2012, RPI + .5% for 2012/2013

Many improvements in the SA, some listed by Iakovos.

It will be a YES :ok: from me.

Nicely timed JB007 :yuk:

Anyone who thinks that Jim's little visits/chats had anything to do with this is in need of a brain transplant ! The only thing they respect is force, a pilot workforce ready to strike is just that.

Well done BALPA and the CC.

So, it's still a miserly pay rise (only just in real terms) and a bit of tinkering with the SA, which only benefits a 2 day weekend. Anything longer, and it's the same deal as now - finish late, start early.

No from me. Again.

And goodbye BALPA.

cant complain, well done to Balpa and the CC, looks like I need to get a PCLA done asap.

And that sums up the point.

The offer is designed to get a 51% vote, so the FO's with 3 stripes get £2500 extra p.a.

They will of course have to wait for their PCLAs, and when they get them they'll get LHS quickly, so the £2500 extra will never be seen!!

Well done JB007 for your post. :=

Yes from me. Well done BALPA and the CC.