I would like to thank my PBM for printing off the letter from JF to BALPA. Our toilets at my base were not attended to yesterday and as such we ran out of loo roll. I found the contents of Jim Frsnch's letter most useful to wipe my arse with. Thanks again Jim, you saved me from an emabarrasing moment.

I hear on the grapevine that JF and his lapdog are going to be visiting bases soon.

What do you think? Repeated verbal diarrhea? Going over the BS that he's already written.

Pleading? Subtle threats? More scare tactics? Maybe a willingness to actually do something about this situation ha ha?

Is it even worth your effort to go and see him? Let the IA thing pan out and let them shove it?

I support the BALPA advice re approaches from PBMs and now JF: politely refer them to BALPA - that is who they should be negotiating with right now.

I strongly recommend in the light of current developments that all pilots - BALPA members or not - have a thorough read of the Flybe policy on Harassment & Bullying.

Any attempt by the PBMs or any senior management to intimidate or threaten staff, however subtly, should be met with formal grievances. In the case of a director, this complaint should be sent to a non-executive director. Personally, I would write to all of them, and then ensure the same issue is raised at the Flybe AGM on 8 September.

They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring!

Totally agree, Jim has had over a year to sort this out and now that we are close to IA all of a sudden he's running around wanting to talk to pilots.
Sorry Jim but it's too late for that, you can now deal with BALPA, I won't be making the effort to see you. :=

Motion seconded.

Ram it.

Jim may be out and about, but it's the same old rhetoric.

Flybe is unique, that's why you can't compare it to any other company or airline.
Small bases are good.
People roster more efficiently than the computer.
No one is really leaving ( so why bother doing anything)
The dash is more technically unreliable than any ejet or airbus, but it will remain the backbone of Flybe.
He's not bothered about the share price, just wants to run Flybe as a business.
More pay, you'll be lucky.
:ugh:

Evening all. Long-time listener, first-time caller!

I for one can completely understand why BALPA didn't recommend the latest "offer" It's all fur coat and no knickers!

I'm right at the bottom of the pile and, therefore, money is tight. I was phoned the day before yesterday asking me to come in on my first day off. I'd already done six days so that would have been my seventh in a row. I could really use the extra cash but, as this was my first run of three days off in three months, I felt I could use the time off more than I could use the money. Not to mention I was fairly irritated to have been asked to work because they were "desperate" only the day after receiving a letter telling me how lucky I was to have a job when we were selling aircraft but not getting rid of anyone. I frequently work 6 and 2, lates to earlies and I'm knackered. And before anyone says that I knew what I was getting myself into before I signed on the line let me say that I don't think I did know. And really, in all honesty, how many people do know what they're getting themselves into when they're fresh out of the sausage factory, bright eyed, enthusiastic and delighted to be getting the chance to live the "dream"? Feel Like You're Being Exploited? I know I feel like my goodwill is!

Roster
 

Anybody else notice how bad the rosters are getting. Stby's are almost none existence, and over the last two months I have had two instances where I have been given a 9 day stretch with only 1 day off in the middle. Where is the chance to recover there? Oh, and working days off.

On another note, anybody know what this big announcement is they keep talking about on ART courses?

Big announcement;
Well dropping the frankfurts does lead in towards a big announcement! Why bother focussing on a world gateway that doesn't work. Paris and Amsterdam are just witin an hours flight reach.
Must have to do with major carrier tie-up. Cityjets airplanes are really old. AF-KLM close to a big deal for new busses.
Next week: Paris Airshow!
Last week: French build ATR72-600 certified by Easa!

Imminent 'big' announcement
 

Embraer slots have been sold to someone else and we're getting Q400NG's instead.

Forever doomed to be a tractor driver.........

They can both go out on strike together then Deano777:D

Question:

FlyBe buying Cimber Sterling?


Regards,

£9000/month basic, 5/3 5/3 roster, yes please.(ppjn)

Blue system
 

Have you heard the rumour where you are? Or are you guessing what might happen?

So management have done the rounds.
Balpa are going to do the rounds.

When are the IA ballot papers coming out??

Patience my young apprentice

Bill Ash is taking over as General Manager Flight Crew/Head of Crewing and Ops. Then we'd be rogered!

And changing our weekend to 8 hours, which can be reduced to 6 due to "operational disruption".

Thank you BOSD - it all makes sense now: Bill, or should I say Darth, Ash is in fact a dark lord of The Sith - this explains everything!

So this rumour about the jet options being sold then. Has anyone else heard it or is it just someone causing mischief? If its true then any long term path to an even half way fair salary has just evaporated (along with my hearing) :uhoh: