Now you can't tell me that this ISN'T a good deal, all those tightfisted ****ers don't have an argument IMHO.

Serria Romeo ;

Thank you very much. That response is exactly the positive stuff we need. 1.6vs, if your a Jet2 employee then your response, although unhelpful is noted. If your not a Jet2 employee, please keep you opinions to yourself. Jet2 does not have it's own private airline forum, therefore we have to use thye public forums.

The Tax Saving is another huge benefit of BALPA membership. I have sucessfully applied to HM Revenue and had my Tax code changed using a BALPA standard letter. I now receive my annual FRE (Flat Rate Expenses) credited back. Jet2 certainly didn't inform me of this and wouldn't of changed my Tax code. If they were BALPA affiliated they would of had to. Say no more ...................

Jet2 does have it's own private website for crew, however you have to post in your own name and it is visible to all Jet2 staff who have registered.

I am happy to let all know my stance. Being open is the only way to encourage the frank exchange of views.

If people are worried about anominity, why doesn't the people who run the jet2crew website have a private section that only BALPA members can access. In order to gain entry you must have a valid BALPA member number! This alone will generate LOTS of interest from non members!

It can't be too hard to set up a forum within jet2crew that is password protected for BALPA members only, and invite a BALPA representative from BALPA head office to monitor this section. That's what happens at other airlines:O

That way, the CC can see just how many BALPA members they actually have, and the private forum could also be used to thrash out problems out of the eyes of prying management....????!!!!

Only a thought....

Jet2 have issued a profit warning. The only thing that keeps you lot of premadonnas in your fanciful jobs, is a bunch of truck drivers. -"Fowler Welch Coolchain" for the totally 'ignorant.

1.6vs,

Will you please crawl back under whichever stone you emerged from. Your comments are immature and not useful!

GROW UP!!!!

My last post was factual, and not the virtual world that some of you pilots live in. Do you honestly think Phillip Meeson didn,t learn anything during the 'Thatcher years'. Union recognition?
I suggest he re-registers the aircraft in, say; -Lithuainia, crew them with 'eastern block' save a packet and not have to deal with whinging 'blue collar' workers.

Obviously a well balanced individual. A chip on both shoulders.........

I take it you never made it as a pilot then.

Sorry for the thread drift.

It sounds to me, 1.6vs, like hell hath no fury like an ex employee scorned.

...but I guess you're going to tell me I'm wrong, in your trademark charming manner.

you should chill out 1.6vs.

to suggest jet2 is disappearing up its own jet pipe is ludicrous.

who do you work for by the way? it seems from reading your posts that you have done a lot of interviews, silverjet (which aren't your cup of tea), ryanair. You suggest you have worked for Globespan, Excel.

why are you so bitter?

why shouldn't jet2 have Balpa representation?

now back to the thread

As an employee of a Balpa recognised company in the UK (not BA), I can highly recommend Balpa. Because of Balpa I now enjoy improved pay, better T&C's, after 911 Balpa prevented redundancies etc.

Good luck to you guys on your mission to get jet2 recognised.

I can honestly say that when I needed Balpa they were there for me and provided a first class service when I needed it.
So what can BALPA do for Jet2 when recognised?
For less than a tenner a month with tax relief for an F/O, and under twenty quid for a Captain in the first year how can this be anything less than a no brainer?
At the very least it gives you a legal department at the end of the phone to hand over to the day it goes wrong upfront.
Ask anyone who has been there if it's worth the few quid quoted above and i know what the answer will be.
[BIf you have any sense you know what to do![/B]
Jet2 pilot.

Great idea - not sure if the moderators of jet2crew.com have viewed these posts but one would imagine they might have their 'collars felt' by 'those in suits'???????

Is it possible for a PPRUNE Private Airline Forum for Jet2???? (It would certainly keep un-welcome and un-useful comments appearing on, what is really a quite serious debate for JET2 flight deck employees!)

I've been discussing BALPA with friends who fly for easyjet. Only praise from them about BALPA. They really turned things round there and whats more, the management seem to be happy with it. A complete contrast with Ryanair. Lets hope Jet2 move in the easy direction as opposed the Ryanair company ethos.

The company will need to retain experienced crews if their going to travel 'further distances' across water.

There is a BALPA website with a forum only available to crew from that company.

However, not that I would want to be a kill joy, but anyone that thinks that management wouldn't get access to a forum like that is being naive.

Not that this is a bad thing, if their's is a good working relationship, but there is no such thing as an anonymous forum. Especially not here on Pprune.

If you are in Jet2 and haven't already done so.....

JOIN BALPA!!

If we get enough people to get recognition, then we can see whether the BALPA sceptics are right or wrong.
And even if they are correct, what have we lost? Even if only for 1 year, we would have given ourselves a "1% (0.5% for new joiners and this isn't even mentioning tax relief!) pay cut!!" - to paraphrase a common saying amongst non-BALPArites.

But if the sceptics are wrong, then BALPA can help keep our company a happy place to be - which is what we all want!

PS 1.6vs - thanks, I haven't laughed so much in ages!

gulpers:-
I was pleased that you found my post funny, What is it that you are trying to achieve through union recognition. Jet2 are a LOCO operator, where do you think the savings come from? YOU, its simple, you ask for more then you will be cast down with the sodamites. Remember there are two types in this world ; those with power and those without.no guesses which you are in.
Keep laughing!!!!

1.6Vs
 

I always thought it was Sodom as in Genesis but then I am not nearly as clever as you.

Sodamites? Are they the insects you get in bottles of pop?

Perhaps he means "The Israelites" by Desmond D..i.e the poor working man.

Maybe one of our elite flightdeck can introduce him to some of our nice male cabin crew:ooh:.

Anyone for beer and sandwiches?

1.6vs

Are you trying to be for jet2 what Leo Hairy Camel was for Ryanair?

If so, I guess that means you'll be invisible in the near future as LHC now is. Along with your very narrow minded, blinkered view of the benefits of union recognition for the jet2 pilot community.

Let's keep this on topic.

Jet2, JOIN BALPA! What is there to lose? But we can only gain if we have the backing of an organisation who have the clout to make management listen, who can give the hard-working CC some real back-up and make sure that decisions are actually communicated instead of one-sidedly implemented.

Spread the word. Let's get organised and do this!

JOIN BALPA!!!

PS 1.6Vs is a funny "man" with a strange axe to grind. I suggest we take his posts with the humour they are obviously meant, smile at his typos and not bother replying to him after this.

I'm not sure if any of the Crew Council have read these posts but I shall hope that BALPA will be brought up at the next meeting.

As foreseen, the issue of charging staff for hold baggage got everyone's backs up, nothing was said or done by the company about it after all the initial complaining on the crew website and now it seems, that is that!!

I hope the CC does bring it up. They are people who have stepped forward to try and make things better for us all and I want them to get the best back-up possible against:

......THIS sort of event. Being charged for bags is insulting, but the real slap in the face is being totally ignored when we try, in a measured "company" way that you'd hope would bring some response, to say that we think this isn't right.
Bringing things in without consultation and then ignoring any dissent is just not the right way to operate. There is a difference between a voice heard and a voice listened to.

JOIN BALPA!!

My God, you fellas work for a company that charges you to put baggage in the hold? I don't believe it!:ugh: You don't need BALPA, you need a new job!

That's the problem, I enjoy my job, I get on great with all the people I work with (well, the ones who actually know what an aeroplane looks like) and the company isn't all that bad too work for...........

............. it's just I think it would be a million times better if we had improved T & C's!!

I've been looking at those of other airlines and it does make one feel a little green :ooh:.

I think someone just hit the nail on the head.

It appears to be a good company - and to have good staff. And I'm told it may even have some good managers & directors. (Don't shoot me yet!!) :eek:

The issue appears to be that PM wants to involve himself with the day to day running of the company instead of letting his managers do that! :ugh:

I know this is a pilot website but ALL staff are affected by the new pay for baggage policy. And I understand that even those higher up were not all aware of or impressed with the idea.

Back on topic - There seems to be differing views on BALPA - not my place to comment but I hope you all find an appropriate voice to support you as your company grows. :ok: