Colin Monkfish/Spinnaker

I dont know about MOL's terms however as a humbleorange line Captain withe just over 5 years in i am on target to do over £100k this tax year .If the share price keeps on going up or even staying where it is , my share options alone next year are worth nearly £50 k.
Your right , these loco's are ruining everything !
yes i work hard when i am at work so what , most people who work for anything other than local government these days work long days everyday without the 3 or 4 days off after 5 working days .They dont get standbys either .I wouldnt fancy a real job and if EZY keep on "ruining it"like this then bring it on i say !

There is a world of difference between the likes of EZY and the likes of GSM / Flybe gents .The orange world is not perfect , however as a safe credible employer with an overall reasonable financial package its pretty good .

There wil always be startup's like GSM who are cutting everything to the bone in order to try and get things going , it is very difficult to compete with EZY and FR now due to their cost base , free capital and brand presence .Mr D may have deep pockets are they deep enough ? time will tell . In the meantime there are jobs in Scotland on Jets for those who are prepared to put up with the crap , if its that bad leave !

I did!

You only mention Orange, and then, only the money. There's more to life than just money, unless you’re a bit on the shallow side.

BTW do you think it is safe to drive home in a state of fatigue? Just curious.

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Eff Oh and Nil Further....

Sorry, our posts were deleted as the thread degenerated into expletives from third parties.

My (deleted) point was not personally directed and I hope you did not feel in any way offended, but I was alluding to the possibility that an airline with poor Terms and Conditions would not be particularly concerned about the standard of its crews. Since we cannot see one another on Pprune, the impression we give others is in what we write.

As it happens, I agree 100% with Nil Further and I hope you guys saw my apology to you before it was deleted by the mods.

One can only sympathise with the guys who work for companies who would exploit them rather than give them a fair deal and I think that this is the real issue here.

A few years ago I couldn't even spell pilto and now I are one!

Fair enough. It was getting out of hand, which is what my post was about.

I agree. I am a member of other forums (unrelated to aviation), when things get out of hand the mods do step in, but they also leave a note as to why. There have to be rules, and the mods have a job to do, but a one line note helps in the interest of healthy debate.

Just a suggestion that's all.

Is it true u guys at Globespan are operating outta Ireland this summer on behalf of Excell Ireland. Any Irish bases going?

[QUOTE=weiss5;3037001]Gibson,
you have obviously got your head in sand! you must be glasgow based! you should be supporting your fellow pilots not knocking them.. oh, or are you pushing for a command, SAD!
My god, I can't beleive there are people with nothing better to do on Christmas day than to bitch about their employer, that is SAD!

Spinnaker, careful who you tar with that statement. Not all Loco's are the same. I too am happy with my renumeration and my workload.

From the EZY rostering and crewing agreement:
When a pilot returns to base having gone more than 1 hour into discretion or having been on duty 14 hrs the pilot may request hotel accommodation at base at the Company’s expense in order to reduce the possibility of an accident, due to fatigue, whilst commuting home.

I accept your forthcoming apology.

Scottie,

well said - perhaps some members may have a chip on both shoulders depending on how well their interview went !

Scottie

What a sensible idea, any idea if that is seen as a taxable benefit? (accom at home base), - at my Company it is....:\

Well said. Too many people out there just don't realise how much EZY has changed in the last 18 months. Yes we may do 800+ hours per year - but so do BA shorthaul and they do a lot of their duties away from home for 3-4 days at a stretch - great for family life :hmm:

EZY now has 5/3/5/4 roster agreement in place for Winter AND Summer 07 with possible further improvement for Winter 07. My rosters are always published on the 17th of each month for the next month and are very stable with perhaps one or two changes per month (disruption payments can apply).

All staff were given two weeks basic salary worth of shares recently as recognition of our efforts during a "difficult" summer - a nice touch from a LoCo! I've been in the current share schemes for about 16 months and they are currently "worth" over £40k - not too bad and I am well aware that the price of shares can go (right) down as well as up!

It's musical chairs at the moment for pilots - jobs abound. But ask yourself where would rather be when the downturn inevitably comes. I've said it before - you could do a lot worse than the Orange order.

For those concerned about positioning and then driving home - just mention the words "duty of care" and "Corporate liability" to your management. Any responsible company WILL provide you with accomodation.

Happy New Year to you all,

Fly safe in 2007.

A4 :ok:

Could anyone tell how frequently this deadheading back To MAN after a transatlantic flight occurs, surely it must be a temporary thing and occurs only when absolutely necessary.

Any crews care to comment

CPML

Is this not the norm for low-cost or charter ops? Whilst employed as an LAE - I've got 767 B2; maybe I'll approach Globespan! - I worked mainly for the maintenance arms of UK charter airlines. Keeping costs to the minimum was the norm (I'm not condoning the practices mentioned above). I remember one company would carry an engineer on board from the UK to Kenya, expect him to deal with the turnaround and then fly back with it. Didn't last for long - someone raised a CHIRP.

Tis just because they're a bit stretched with the Air India stuff.
I'd think it'll get better when they finish their fleet buying and recruitment.
Mates there like it, just a bit hectic at mo and tell they don't have a rod up their arse like FC does!

Remember, 'only believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read'?
Then again, you could not believe that either :confused:

Supergimp,

Elaborate please?!
Where have you heard this?!

Your long-hall ops sound like Blue Paranoia ( that infamous farce of an airline from MXP and FCO) reincarnated ( although they haven't died yet)My god this long haul lark sounds like such fun (not). Oh well, good luck with staying awake on the drive home, maybe I'll try and think of you next time I feel like wingeing too much about my lot in Ryanair. . . . or then again maybe not, I'm still entitled to want better too.

I don't know! Haven't had to use it yet but it is nice to know we have the option. :)

Seems to be a permanent arrangement.

Also heard recently from the staff at LPL that 737 flights are to stop from March. 757 only to operate to NY.

Just curious, are Globespan recruiting for direct entry commands on the 767?

TBE.