Sowotanoa,
I guess you be an expert having just got your first job less than 2 weeks ago!
Such arrogance at such an early stage tut tut.

I think PB is leaving or will be pushed.

Word in STN is that he has solved the training and pilot numbers problem for Ryanair but will be dumped as DOB and EW are about to start WW3 on the pilots.

Pay cuts, demotions and benefits slashed are coming. More REPA court cases anyone?

I bet the Gingerman DH will be the next GMFOPS.

Anyone know if it is confirmed that PB is leaving FR?

Can you substantiate any of your claims... or are they suppositions?

Assessment fee Ryanair
 

Hi there,

Can anyone tell me if it is true, that open day applicants don't have to pay the assesment fee of GBP 252,-?

Kind regards
Dutchpilots

You may wish to ask Ryan directly. That way you won't be suprised either way if you attend the open day assement.

Personally, I know from at least half a dozen of guys who got in without any fees- they just attended the open day, had their interview and got a contractual offer right away.

no fee....
 

Hi there Dutchpilots..... I was there a week ago and there was no fee..
But remember to bring some food as there is no such thing available in the vending machine.... just coffee.. :hmm:
You will get a reply real quick to... about 24 hrs after you will know if you´re in or not.. I was lucky.... :) :) :)

I believe it's true. So, at the moment, new recruits are a mix of those who have paid for a sim ride and those who haven't

Welcome to MOL´s Ryanair, the guy who negotiates- and deals with each individual pilot...:}

Heard some have to pay.

Reckon if you are type rated you'll get away with it. This is typical of FR, different terms and conditions for all even before you start.

If you are sucessful in your application the best thing you can do is sign on to the repaweb.org website. This is free and a great way to communicate with all FR pilots in all FR bases.

On PB - I have been told that he was offered roles at EZY and NetJets. Many have asked him directly in STN if he is leaving. He is laughing it off and saying no.

He issued a letter today with pay cuts which has started WW3.

What letter? I didn't find any letter on crewdock dated Nov 29th.... At least not from PB.

PB may have laughed them off, but every man has his price! Money talks.

MK

And what, threaten that anyone joining couldn't join the union?

I can see MOL just quivering with fear at that idea:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

That will be a very good idea. Someone posted not too long ago that ryanair sent an internal mail that the've only lost six pilots in the past three months. But then everytime I speak to the man in charge of thier training in Amsterdam the numbers ryanair asked for keeps going up. Two months ago it was 150 for next year last week when I spoke with him the number had jumped to 300. If very few have left are they planning to get rid of experienced and expensive ones to replace them with eager new pilots willing to do anything to get on the aviation job ladder.

Ryanair. Truth. Not compatible remember? I can think of at least 10 in the last few weeks, and that's just from the couple of bases I hear things from. rolleyes:

A recruitment ban would be a superb idea if people would actually abide by it. However, we all know there are always a few who will f**k it up for everyone else. Better to let them come in, then realise what a serious mistake they've made and convert them into willing REPA recruits.
On the other hand, if a ban worked it would solve ryanairs problems in a matter of weeks. Can wannabes take that leap of faith to better themselves?

ryanair/brk contract??
 

hi

at this moment i have contract with ryanair. but now i am asked to change my contract with ryanair for a new contract with brookfield for a base in dublin (i have to resign with ryanair!) Is there anyone who has experience with this situation and can give me some advice.

i also saw a thread discussing this matter before, but somehow i cannot find it anymore, did it disappear?


thanks for your help.

As you are working for Ryanair, you have assumedly signed up to REPA, if not WAKE UP NOW MAN FOR CRISSAKE . A wealth of advice / options is available there, whether you are a member of IALPA , BALPA, or indeed the Monster Raving Loony Party . You are not alone, and your problem is not unique, contact REPA ASAP or regret at your leisure. In the meantime, sign / agree to nothing and try and stall them for time. Good news should be coming along in 6 days time.

Just the small matter of a supreme court ruling which will decide whether RYR, like everyone else, has to abide by the law, indeed a law which they, 9 years ago, were directly responsible for inspiring. I guess you have no connections to RYR or you would undoubtedly be aware of this ( I hope).

part time ryanair/ pilot jobs
 

I am curious as to whether it is posible to get a part time contract job for one of the low cost airlines such as Ryanair. ie. work only 2 or 3 days per week.

cheers

From a couple of colleagues who tried: they don't do part time.

do it full time and get 5 days on, 4 days off..... :ok:

Easyjet do 75% and 50% contracts which you can apply for after working full-time for a year. Certain conditions apply, such as you must have a young child, etc.

Why not tell the full story jinkster? That the 5/4 is at their convenience, that half your annual leave is allocated to the 4th day, that recurrent training is on days "off"...
I hear MOL really likes gullible youngsters such as yourself. When you work out what a terrible mistake you've made (that should take about 10 mins), be sure to join REPA.

I was merely stating the roster to planeshipcar, not wanting turn a pprune thread back into another slanging match!!!!!!!!!!!!

- jinkster with the greatest of respect you were not, because it was not relevant to what he or she asked. You were advertising the "wonderful" deal for "5 on and 4 off" which was rejected by the vast majority of Ryanair pilots because of little bits like those mentioned by CamelhAir. If you really wanted to avoid another slanging match you would have kept your silence about something you do not appear to know anything about.

The answer to the question posed at the top of this thread, is that Ryanair are not sympathetic to those seeking part-time work (and that is an understatement).

In that case - please accept my apologies!:uhoh:

Is it possible to get a contract with the likes of Brookfields that allows you to work part time for the company?

Apart from Easy Jet where else can you work part time on a 50% contract?

Strewth- can't you take 'no' for an answer? Why should they give out part-time through agencies and not to those on direct contracts? I mean- you really are flogging that one to death, aren't you? At the age of 21, why are you so desperately concerned at part-time? Wouldn't you say at this stage is it important to build up rapid experience? In the company I am in now, a lot of young pilots are not even taking their full leave so they can build experience quickly!

Jinkster
I have been reading some of your recent posts and you seem to have swallowed some Ryanair propaganda hook line and sinker. You are in for a very heavy landing I fear my friend. I do genuinely wish you the best but I wonder if you will have changed your tune after 6 months. I certainly did. Although so concerned was I that I would be made an example of by my employer I had to take a new username solely for Ryanair related topics on PPRuNe. So maybe we won't hear from you again either.
P.S The 5/4 is not 5/4. You do sim on days off for example. Ryanair can also change it to 5/2 5/3 at their whim multiple times a year. It says so in your contrac...... Whoops! Silly me, did they even give a copy of your contract?
Don't forget to join www.repaweb.org!
Rainboe:
Oh dear, oh dear. You, quite obviously, are not familiar with the ways of Ryanair. This is exactly the case. There are numerous, I repeat, numerous flavours and varieties of contracts on offer to Pilots in Ryanair both full time and contract. It is quite often the case that so called Brookfield "contractors" (They are in effect full time employees) are offered conditions of employment favorouable to existing employees. The situation where a F/O is earning a multiple of the Captain he sits beside is not unheard of.
As for part time work, it is a closely gaurded secret that there is 5 on 10 off available for a select few Brookfield Pilots. As with most things in Ryanair only if you shout the loudest and threaten the most might you get it.

Carmoisine, I reckon you're bang on about Jinkster. I've looked at a few his posts too and the fall from the height he's at is gonna result in a very very painful landing. I give him about 3 months tops. :ouch:

Rainboe,

It seems that a few Brookfields do have very different contracts and as stated 5 on 10 off.

You are a rude tw*t.

I have to say I'm shocked that so many of you don't understand the economics of Ryan and contract pilots from agenices. They try their hardest to have as many outside pilots contracted in!

Read through pprune slower and don't skim over stuff it will stop you looking like stupid fools!

Happy New Year

Who is the rude one? You can keep your Happy New Years to yourself, young man, until you get better manners. How easy it is to use anonymity to hide abuse like that! Pathetic really. If you know the answer, go to Brookfields and come back and tell us then! In fact it would have saved a load of hard disk space if you'd asked them in the first place! I happen to know because a friend of mine was approached more than once to join Ryanair- he was only willing to work part time, and that was declined by Ryanair more than once. So....if the answer was as simple as joining an agency, I think there would have been a way. So....why can't you take 'no' for an answer?
You're not even a professional pilot anyway, are you? So dream on.

planeshipcar do you realise that you come across as somebody who knows a lot less about this than you may think. To have asked the question you asked at the top of this thread and then lecture us about your being "shocked" at our ignorance is hardly wise.

BTW, if you really want to confirm your ignorance you can tell us what BRK or FR tell you and then tell us you believe them. It might be better to try speaking to a few of the many pilots who got told things that never quite materialised. That's the real "economic reality".

1. I had to re ask my question because all the replies were oblivious to contracting. Not one answer referred to agencies. You assumed Ryans set up was only 5 day on 4 off which is for their personal employees, this varies copnsiderably from the different agencies that a large proportion of Ryanair are employed with?

My question is very clearly asking a route to 50% contract or to part time work in an airline not neccesarily Ryan - ANY.

2 I have researched other airlines now including Easyjet and BA who offer 50% contracts to pilots, there are many more which I still have to look into. Why didn't you answer my question? Someone said 'No, can't you get the message. What pisses me off was they were patently wrong and were rude and incredibly un helpful and misleeding, insulting and deserved to be called what they were. Their ansere 'no' was bollocks.

So with the information that Ryan and and other airlines have part time pilots I have no idea how I can be critised by those who say I haven't got as much knowledege.

Go figure?

Oh yes? You go figure.....you try getting it! 2 or 3 days a week? Funny man! And a tad abusive for my taste- if you think you can go walk into it, fill your boots then come back and say you got it. But that is all you get from me. Byee

What was the final outcome of the BA first officer who wanted to go part time to look after her child? I recall they refused it to her due to her experience levels however if she had over 1500hrs or something, then it could be possible. She took them to court and BALPA supported her case.

It's the Starmer case, which was won by her. Search should get there, but I'm sure planetractorcar could quote you chapter and verse. He thinks it will apply to him.

Rainboe give it a rest mate.
Your initial post on this topic was misleading, both do forms of part-time given certain conditions.
BTW I work for Ryanair and used to work for Easyjet.