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pug 3rd Nov 2021 21:19

FlyingStone

Not sure I understand your point. The public apparently voted to end freedom of movement, we U.K. passport holders are therefore no longer able to live and work freely in an EU country as before. Or are you of the view that the British should just get all the benefits of EU membership without the membership/reciprocity?

Call me naive, but I thought those sort of views had been put to bed now.

Same applies to EASA, the CAA are in a position to do what they like with regards licensing recognition, it’s not quite so simple within EASA without a BASA in place. So if the Government are reluctant to enter discussions about this, then it’s not going to happen. Bitter pill to swallow perhaps, but the U.K. is not as influential as we may like it to be any more.

BBK 5th Nov 2021 06:46

Sirboeing

i asked a European agency about the requirements regarding UK to EASA at PPL level and it was as follows: 5 hours dual, skills test, EASA medical and ground study followed by a test. I’m just considering whether it’s worth the hassle for a few hours every year. If you’re in the UK I believe there’s a club at Stapleford that have EASA approval and likewise there is an AME at LGW who has AME approval. Appreciate you’re asking about ATPL but maybe try them.

As for the politics there is no escaping the fact that the CAA wanted to remain in EASA so I can only assume that the reason they could not was down to political considerations regarding the ECJ having jurisdiction. There was a RAes paper with detailed analysis so it’s not like these problems weren’t foreseen. Brexit, IMHO, is a mess and was always going to be so as divorces often are. The Brexit voting public should have conducted a thorough cost/benefit analysis before voting yes. The benefits, if you can call them that, might have been obvious but the true cost is only emerging now.

deltahotel 5th Nov 2021 10:54


Originally Posted by Contact Approach (Post 11136841)
I couldn’t care less which operator was flying domestic U.K. routes to be honest. Just as Europeans don’t mind a EUROPEAN airline flying domestically across the whole continent…

There - that reads better

Banana Joe 5th Nov 2021 10:57

He still won't get it. Even if he probably flies for that airline.

deltahotel 5th Nov 2021 11:04

There's a bunch of stuff here form a different part of this site that may or may not help.

Good luck

https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/64...k-atplh-2.html

SimoFly 5th Nov 2021 17:22

The way I see it and I really hope to be proved wrong is that the UK CAA has created a system to make easy money through these conversions applications. It doesn't make any sense to me to hear that they are waiting for my easa authority to reply while the easa authority gave me the proof that they have actually gave all the necessary replies since August 2021. I think it is just a way to receive money but I am not sure I will ever receive my UK license and that's because I live in Europe even if I have British permanent residency. I lived long enough in UK to understand the "modus operandi" of certain institutions. We are just paying the price for this political mess...

deltahotel 5th Nov 2021 18:51

Simo. The CAA just works slowly through the massive pile of applications. I have colleagues who are still waiting for their licences to be issued. Mine took 6 weeks from confirmation of verification, others longer.


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