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ZAV 16th Dec 2019 12:11

Ryanair
 
https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-boe...7-max-mystery/

""During the booking process, Ryanair passengers won’t be informed that their flights will be on Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. The carrier’s chief executive confirmed this news yesterday.""
What an arrogant s...t !!!! Think they have the right to know.

ShamrockF 16th Dec 2019 12:36

Why is this in Terms & Endearment?

ZAV 16th Dec 2019 13:30

And you would like it where Shamrock. Regarding your comment Joe not all Ryanair pax are off to stag parties. The public have a right t know which aircraft type they are flying don`t you think?

sekmeth 16th Dec 2019 13:46

For once I actually understand Ryanair.
1: they run a Business, if the FAA and EASA and all the others aprove the aircraft, it is deemed safe.
2: there is no way to assign a particular aircraft to a flight a few months in advance. What happens with AOGs, diversions etc etc.
Im sure other airlines will do the same, of realize that last minute changes forces them to use a MAX instead of a NG

Joker89 16th Dec 2019 13:46

To be fair, how to guarantee on a mixed 737 fleet which type will be allocated on the day of operations. Fair enough I say

ZAV 16th Dec 2019 14:13

Possibly yes but its the attitude.

BewareOfTheSharklets 16th Dec 2019 14:55


Originally Posted by ZAV (Post 10641259)
Possibly yes but its the attitude.

Agreed. Consumers should have the right to know what they're purchasing. When I book a flight with Iberia or Lufthansa, they're both fairly reliable at providing the same A319/20/21 that was listed during the booking process. Same with KLM and 737/8/9s.

TartinTon 16th Dec 2019 15:23

If you actually bothered to read the full quote you're putting your own interpretation on it.

“The reality is [if people want to know whether or not they are due to fly in a Max jet], the answer is that you won’t,” O’Leary told FlightGlobal in Brussels.
“Because we won’t know. We do our aircraft allocations on a nightly basis. You’re booking your ticket six, eight weeks in advance.”

Say Mach Number 16th Dec 2019 15:41

Lets face it if the boys and girls who are going to fly this thing don't get on it no passengers are going anywhere regardless of when you booked your ticket.

No pilots no fly.

Reality being however by the time they get this thing back in the air if will probably be the safest thing in the sky.............

Bengerman 16th Dec 2019 15:45


Originally Posted by sekmeth (Post 10641241)
For once I actually understand Ryanair.
1: they run a Business, if the FAA and EASA and all the others aprove the aircraft, it is deemed safe.

Haven't the FAA already deemed it safe? How did that pan out?

Ryanair are not interested
if their pax know what the aircraft is, their sole interest is their wallets and how they can get their hands on the contents. O'Leary isn't going to change now, why should he, he makes loads of money out of his business.

SID PLATE 16th Dec 2019 15:52


Originally Posted by ZAV (Post 10641172)
https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-boe...7-max-mystery/

""During the booking process, Ryanair passengers won’t be informed that their flights will be on Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. The carrier’s chief executive confirmed this news yesterday.""
What an arrogant s...t !!!! Think they have the right to know.

Ryanair will not be operating the 737 - MAX. They will operate the 737 - 8200. OK .. different name, same aeroplane ... however ...
When re certified, it should be safer, or at least as safe, as the 737NG. Boeing and the FAA can't afford for it not to be.
You, and some parts of the media are trying to create a fatuous argument.
Nothing to see here ... move on.

Alsacienne 16th Dec 2019 15:57

Don't any airlines T&C when booking advise that no particular make or type of aircraft is guaranteed .... I'm sure it's in there somewhere. It's the company that decide the plane ... route, distance, load factors of SLF and real freight, availability and staffing to name a few conditions.

If you want to be sure of the type of plane you're going to fly in, pay up for a business jet.

(Even the old BEA printed timetables of the 1960s/1970s used to state EQV = Equipment Varies!!)

ZAV 16th Dec 2019 17:03

Sharklets is right however when you buy something you have the right to know what you are buying and whether we like it or not consumer confidence rightly or wrongly has dropped in this aircraft. As I stated it is the attitude that is wrong here.....

vaninnam 16th Dec 2019 17:23

question about type
 
I paxed back from a sim in Joburg on company 319 when a 87 year old lady asked the cabin crew if this was 737 max ??/

SID PLATE 16th Dec 2019 17:27


Originally Posted by ZAV (Post 10641341)
Sharklets is right however when you buy something you have the right to know what you are buying and whether we like it or not consumer confidence rightly or wrongly has dropped in this aircraft. As I stated it is the attitude that is wrong here.....

RYR's attitude is what it is. If you don't like it, buy a ticket with some other carrier.
Again ... this is a non event. If you allow RYR's style and culture to wind you up whenever they do something you don't agree with .. you will not be a happy person.

VJW 16th Dec 2019 18:29


Originally Posted by vaninnam (Post 10641354)
I paxed back from a sim in Joburg on company 319 when a 87 year old lady asked the cabin crew if this was 737 max ??/

Strange how the lady announced her age in the asking of her question..?!

lcolman 16th Dec 2019 19:27


Originally Posted by ZAV (Post 10641341)
Sharklets is right however when you buy something you have the right to know what you are buying and whether we like it or not consumer confidence rightly or wrongly has dropped in this aircraft. As I stated it is the attitude that is wrong here.....

You know what you are buying; you are buying a ticket for one of the safest airlines in the world to take you from one airport to another very uncomfortably.

If you are still unhappy about this then pay more and fly on another airline that has no 737s in its fleet.

RexBanner 16th Dec 2019 19:31

The age could have been overheard in a different conversation, unless that was the only thing the lady in question said all flight.

msbbarratt 16th Dec 2019 21:20


Originally Posted by sekmeth (Post 10641241)
For once I actually understand Ryanair.
1: they run a Business, if the FAA and EASA and all the others aprove the aircraft, it is deemed safe.
2: there is no way to assign a particular aircraft to a flight a few months in advance. What happens with AOGs, diversions etc etc.
Im sure other airlines will do the same, of realize that last minute changes forces them to use a MAX instead of a NG

Agreed. I’m no fan of Ryanair’s service, but if the EUASA say it’s good to go then it’s good to go. Trillion dollar question is, will they?

My concern is that the MAX doesn’t get to fly again, which would be bad news for Ryanair and its staff, and prices on other airlines will go up.

TheFiddler 16th Dec 2019 21:39

B******t...
 
But they will know well in advance which airframe it is as they will either have sold 189 seats (738) or 200 seats (Max) on the flight....


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