Ryanair
 

https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-boe...7-max-mystery/

""During the booking process, Ryanair passengers won’t be informed that their flights will be on Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. The carrier’s chief executive confirmed this news yesterday.""
What an arrogant s...t !!!! Think they have the right to know.

Why is this in Terms & Endearment?

And you would like it where Shamrock. Regarding your comment Joe not all Ryanair pax are off to stag parties. The public have a right t know which aircraft type they are flying don`t you think?

Possibly yes but its the attitude.

Agreed. Consumers should have the right to know what they're purchasing. When I book a flight with Iberia or Lufthansa, they're both fairly reliable at providing the same A319/20/21 that was listed during the booking process. Same with KLM and 737/8/9s.

If you actually bothered to read the full quote you're putting your own interpretation on it.

“The reality is [if people want to know whether or not they are due to fly in a Max jet], the answer is that you won’t,” O’Leary told FlightGlobal in Brussels.
“Because we won’t know. We do our aircraft allocations on a nightly basis. You’re booking your ticket six, eight weeks in advance.”

Lets face it if the boys and girls who are going to fly this thing don't get on it no passengers are going anywhere regardless of when you booked your ticket.

No pilots no fly.

Reality being however by the time they get this thing back in the air if will probably be the safest thing in the sky.............

Haven't the FAA already deemed it safe? How did that pan out?

Ryanair are not interested
if their pax know what the aircraft is, their sole interest is their wallets and how they can get their hands on the contents. O'Leary isn't going to change now, why should he, he makes loads of money out of his business.

Ryanair will not be operating the 737 - MAX. They will operate the 737 - 8200. OK .. different name, same aeroplane ... however ...
When re certified, it should be safer, or at least as safe, as the 737NG. Boeing and the FAA can't afford for it not to be.
You, and some parts of the media are trying to create a fatuous argument.
Nothing to see here ... move on.

Don't any airlines T&C when booking advise that no particular make or type of aircraft is guaranteed .... I'm sure it's in there somewhere. It's the company that decide the plane ... route, distance, load factors of SLF and real freight, availability and staffing to name a few conditions.

If you want to be sure of the type of plane you're going to fly in, pay up for a business jet.

(Even the old BEA printed timetables of the 1960s/1970s used to state EQV = Equipment Varies!!)

Sharklets is right however when you buy something you have the right to know what you are buying and whether we like it or not consumer confidence rightly or wrongly has dropped in this aircraft. As I stated it is the attitude that is wrong here.....

question about type
 

I paxed back from a sim in Joburg on company 319 when a 87 year old lady asked the cabin crew if this was 737 max ??/

RYR's attitude is what it is. If you don't like it, buy a ticket with some other carrier.
Again ... this is a non event. If you allow RYR's style and culture to wind you up whenever they do something you don't agree with .. you will not be a happy person.

You know what you are buying; you are buying a ticket for one of the safest airlines in the world to take you from one airport to another very uncomfortably.

If you are still unhappy about this then pay more and fly on another airline that has no 737s in its fleet.

B******t...
 

But they will know well in advance which airframe it is as they will either have sold 189 seats (738) or 200 seats (Max) on the flight....

You obviously haven't dealt with many geriatrics. They announce their age at the start of a sentence to almost every new person they meet. "Young man, I an 87 years old, and I want to know if this is one of those 737 Maxies?"

Of course they will know in advance where the max will be flying because to start off with they will not have engineering coverage in all locations to cover the new aircraft as they will be very different to the 800's from an engine perspective and other variables. The small matter of a different config in the cabin, seat maps, purchasing allocated seating etc... They will have to deal with upgrading and downgrading aircraft the same as any other mixed fleet airline but they will build a schedule with the max's flying on specific routes at set times. To say they won't know what the plan is beforehand is a complete and utter lie.

How do you expect them to inform passengers from before if they don't know plane allocations themselves? These aircraft have much higher capacity I am guessing FR will be keeping an eye on loads up to the last minute to try and maintain as high a load factor as possible. If people wont budge on the price they are willing to pay for a seat and they are really that concerned with Boeing then book a flight with Wizz or Easy on an A320.

When I book a train or bus/coach journey, the type of vehicle is not stated... why should it be different for airlines?
I booked LHR-YVR (return) earlier in the year for November, and got "stuck" on a 747 instead of the A380 that was being used when I made my booking. Upset? yes but not something I could complain about