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RSQ3Black340 25th Jan 2024 19:37

Assessment day & Sim Profile
 
Got mine in March, any top tip heads up would be appreciated

AirbusP1 28th Jan 2024 07:26


Originally Posted by Bee051 (Post 11581216)
Hi there, just wondering if anyone who has recently entered the holdpool could give a rough indication on how long it took to receive a contract/start date? NTR and flexible with base.

8 weeks from passing assessment to getting a phone call with an offer of a start date and contract. 3 months notice.

sleithykeithy 28th Jan 2024 08:11


Originally Posted by AirbusP1 (Post 11584990)
8 weeks from passing assessment to getting a phone call with an offer of a start date and contract. 3 months notice.

What time of year was your assessment?

I’ve also passed the Sim/Interview and am awaiting the next call.

AirbusP1 29th Jan 2024 16:46

April last year

SW1 29th Jan 2024 17:10

For info Interview and sim conducted October 2023. Still awaiting phone call for start date so youre not alone.

Prob30Tempo TSRA 29th Jan 2024 17:22

Are you folk airbus ? I understand there’s no NTR dec until further notice

SW1 29th Jan 2024 19:58


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11586027)
Are you folk airbus ? I understand there’s no NTR dec until further notice

Yes rated and current

Prob30Tempo TSRA 30th Jan 2024 07:37

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Pilotman14 31st Jan 2024 23:31

Anyone know the likeliness/situations with the Leeds/Manchester basing for NTR FO (Boeing)

737 Jockey 1st Feb 2024 07:58


Originally Posted by Pilotman14 (Post 11587633)
Anyone know the likeliness/situations with the Leeds/Manchester basing for NTR FO (Boeing)


Looking at the current base transfer list, I’d say you’d have pretty good chance for both, but MAN in particular as it’s our biggest base. It’s a transparent system and they will try to put you in your preferred base asap.

Pilotman14 1st Feb 2024 10:42

Amazing, thank you :)

Oasis 1st Feb 2024 13:20


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA;[url=tel:11586347
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thanks!

Sharklet7 1st Feb 2024 20:09


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 11587794)
Looking at the current base transfer list, I’d say you’d have pretty good chance for both, but MAN in particular as it’s our biggest base. It’s a transparent system and they will try to put you in your preferred base asap.

Hi 737jockey,
If you have access and can view the transfer list can you advise how things look for Edinburgh Glasgow or Belfast?
Thanks

Mr Good Cat 1st Feb 2024 20:47


Originally Posted by Sharklet7 (Post 11588221)
Hi 737jockey,
If you have access and can view the transfer list can you advise how things look for Edinburgh Glasgow or Belfast?
Thanks

EDI and GLA might be difficult to judge for 737 pilots due to the Airbus introduction. BFS has traditionally had a long list for Captain positions.

Sharklet7 1st Feb 2024 20:51


Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat (Post 11588245)
EDI and GLA might be difficult to judge for 737 pilots due to the Airbus introduction. BFS has traditionally had a long list for Captain positions.

Thanks for that info. Is it the same story for FO positions for BFS?

737 Jockey 1st Feb 2024 21:57

According to the latest transfer list there are zero FO/SFO looking for BFS base. It has been a popular base in the past, with little movement, but I know of a skipper who got BFS after just 4 or 5 months after joining last year. The most popular requested base seems to be ALC, which together with PMI have been rumoured to be properly reopening within the next two years.

737 Jockey 1st Feb 2024 22:02


Originally Posted by Sharklet7 (Post 11588221)
Hi 737jockey,
If you have access and can view the transfer list can you advise how things look for Edinburgh Glasgow or Belfast?
Thanks


There seems to be quite a few SFO in GLA currently doing their upgrades which would presumably create FO vacancies there. Currently zero FO looking to transfer into GLA.

One further point is that the FO list in particular is pretty short when you strip out the Airbus Pilots looking to transfer to a base that is currently a 737 only base.

sleithykeithy 2nd Feb 2024 04:29

I'll quickly jump on the bandwagon here if I may...

Any idea for BRS? Thanks

737 Jockey 2nd Feb 2024 06:30


Originally Posted by sleithykeithy (Post 11588403)
I'll quickly jump on the bandwagon here if I may...

Any idea for BRS? Thanks


CP 1 (737), FO 2 - both Airbus. I have no idea whether those pilots wishing to change base requiring a fleet change would go immediately or just wait for the Airbus to arrive at said base?

I am surprised how relatively short the base transfer list is, so must assume that the vast majority get their first base preference on joining, or within a year or so. perhaps a lot of the Airbus pilots in BHX and MAN are either happy there, or waiting for more deliveries to arrive at other bases before making their request. EDI is the next base for Airbus I believe.

Pilotman14 2nd Feb 2024 10:05

Does anyone know how/ where to practice for the 757 sim?
Struggling to find any sim centers with the EPR guages

737 Jockey 2nd Feb 2024 10:29


Originally Posted by Pilotman14 (Post 11588616)
Does anyone know how/ where to practice for the 757 sim?
Struggling to find any sim centers with the EPR guages


Personally, I wouldn’t worry too much about that. Firstly, from memory, there’s only 3 or 4 EPR values you need to memorise for the sim assessment. Secondly, you may end up on the 737 fixed base sim as we did, having been given the 757 briefing pack to prepare for.

They’re very friendly instructors, looking for basic handling skills, but more importantly CRM and your personality fit into the company.

JackyP 2nd Feb 2024 23:42

Holdpool updates
 
In the holdpool bases requested are NCL MAN LPL. Been in since around Xmas. Anyone in a similar position and anyone with any info on how long it currently takes? TIA :3

SpamCanDriver 3rd Feb 2024 09:23


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 11588434)
CP 1 (737), FO 2 - both Airbus. I have no idea whether those pilots wishing to change base requiring a fleet change would go immediately or just wait for the Airbus to arrive at said base?

I am surprised how relatively short the base transfer list is, so must assume that the vast majority get their first base preference on joining, or within a year or so. perhaps a lot of the Airbus pilots in BHX and MAN are either happy there, or waiting for more deliveries to arrive at other bases before making their request. EDI is the next base for Airbus I believe.

Yes they actively want to get you into your preferred base, unlike some of the competitors.
Majority of people get their chosen base within a year if its not available straight away, although a big influx of ex Flybe has seen a big queue for Belfast

mesh 4th Feb 2024 12:00


Originally Posted by sleithykeithy (Post 11588403)
I'll quickly jump on the bandwagon here if I may...

Any idea for BRS? Thanks

still need crew in both seats, welcome :)

rudestuff 4th Feb 2024 12:11


Originally Posted by Pilotman14 (Post 11588616)
Does anyone know how/ where to practice for the 757 sim?
Struggling to find any sim centers with the EPR guages

I'm type rated in that thing and I have no idea what the numbers are either. Just put the lever somewhere in the middle to get the desired outcome.

GAPilot261087 6th Feb 2024 11:27

Interviewed and Sim passed early Jan. NTR. Have had the email saying I passed but no phone call. Hoping to hear soon (ish) but who knows :) Happy to be waiting for a call none the less!

Prob30Tempo TSRA 6th Feb 2024 11:30


Originally Posted by GAPilot261087 (Post 11591371)
Interviewed and Sim passed early Jan. NTR. Have had the email saying I passed but no phone call. Hoping to hear soon (ish) but who knows :) Happy to be waiting for a call none the less!


Well done ! Left seat or right ?

GAPilot261087 6th Feb 2024 11:39

Right seat :) Process was all very nice, everyone dead friendly!

Prob30Tempo TSRA 6th Feb 2024 12:31


Originally Posted by GAPilot261087 (Post 11591380)
Right seat :) Process was all very nice, everyone dead friendly!


nice one . Enjoy your new position , maybe see you there one day !

THRILLSEEKER 8th Feb 2024 12:15

How long after the sim assessment do people usually hear whether it's a yes or no?

Bee051 8th Feb 2024 15:41


Originally Posted by THRILLSEEKER (Post 11592900)
How long after the sim assessment do people usually hear whether it's a yes or no?

Did mine on a Tuesday and heard back Friday morning, think that's fairly standard.

maxpeck 9th Feb 2024 14:43

Just wondering how accurate the latest PPJN update is. Is it true most are on permanent lates and the lifestyle options are not really working out? If only 12.5% of pilots are able to express a preference for earlies or lates, I guess a new entrant can expect a 5/2 roster with the majority of flights being deep nights, landing around 4am?


Mr Good Cat 9th Feb 2024 15:09


Originally Posted by maxpeck (Post 11593793)
Just wondering how accurate the latest PPJN update is. Is it true most are on permanent lates and the lifestyle options are not really working out? If only 12.5% of pilots are able to express a preference for earlies or lates, I guess a new entrant can expect a 5/2 roster with the majority of flights being deep nights, landing around 4am?

No this is not true. The rosters are random, and you might get a 5/2 during a month, but not all month. A flight landing at 4 am would mean a rest day after so a 5/2 would effectively be ON-ON-REST-ON-REST so 3 duties in 5 days. Earlies could be 5 back to back but you wouldn't get that all month. Most are not on permanent lates, they're on random. Training flights tend to be early, so that results in a higher proportion of lates.

NB This applies to Boeing 737 only. Airbus and 757 are different as small fleets and not very busy currently.

HidekiTojo 9th Feb 2024 15:12

Have to love Jet2, a landing day now counts as a day off. I'm sure you'll have a fantastic time after your 3rd night Dalaman.

737 Jockey 9th Feb 2024 15:48


Originally Posted by HidekiTojo (Post 11593821)
Have to love Jet2, a landing day now counts as a day off. I'm sure you'll have a fantastic time after your 3rd night Dalaman.


Not sure that’s correct. If you land after 0400 the rest of that day is a DRP - duty rest period. As en example, one week last Summer I did 4 days on, but just 2 days work - PFO DRP LCA DRP… :cool: Even when landing prior to 0400, I had DRP’s too.

With Canaries, Turkey, Cyprus flights etc. it’s easy to burn through the hours meaning that on lates you tend to have less actual working days. A lot of earlies are shorter; Balearics, FAO, AGP etc. which have been utilised as training flights to save trainers hours. Winter is soooooo quiet though :ok:

Oceanic815 9th Feb 2024 16:29


Originally Posted by maxpeck (Post 11593793)
Just wondering how accurate the latest PPJN update is. Is it true most are on permanent lates and the lifestyle options are not really working out? If only 12.5% of pilots are able to express a preference for earlies or lates, I guess a new entrant can expect a 5/2 roster with the majority of flights being deep nights, landing around 4am?

Unfortunately, whilst PPJN has some accurate info, it is completely uncontrolled. Therefore anyone with a grudge can post anything they like. As has been said before you will get a 5/2 or 6/3 in the summer, but not every week, and it is unlikely they will all be flights, in fact they can’t be. Every one gets some short flights, not just the trainers. The Duty Rest Period after a 4am checkout is a valuable addition. The AM/PM preferences was only trialled last year and has been increased this year. I suspect it will be increased again going forward.

Mr Good Cat 9th Feb 2024 17:58


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 11593848)
Not sure that’s correct. If you land after 0400 the rest of that day is a DRP - duty rest period. As en example, one week last Summer I did 4 days on, but just 2 days work - PFO DRP LCA DRP… :cool: Even when landing prior to 0400, I had DRP’s too.

With Canaries, Turkey, Cyprus flights etc. it’s easy to burn through the hours meaning that on lates you tend to have less actual working days. A lot of earlies are shorter; Balearics, FAO, AGP etc. which have been utilised as training flights to save trainers hours. Winter is soooooo quiet though :ok:

Correct.

The options are:

1. Work earlies and daytime flying but work harder.
2. Work late nights but less hours per month.
3. Have a mix of the two.

Traditionally training has been on earlies, but going forward trainers are able to bid for late flights instead.

As said, Jet2 is all about hard work in the summer and quiet winters. Nothing will change anytime soon as it’s a holiday company. Trainers will work hard all year for obvious reasons, but you can apply for part time once in the company.

maxpeck 10th Feb 2024 16:30

Thanks for the info, good to know as I struggle with the late flights. Much prefer earlies.

Pilotman14 13th Feb 2024 11:19

Hey all, bit of a random question. Does anyone know if the current hiring rates will continue into 2025?
Cheers

de fumo in flammam 13th Feb 2024 15:46


Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat (Post 11593908)
Correct.

The options are:

1. Work earlies and daytime flying but work harder.
2. Work late nights but less hours per month.
3. Have a mix of the two.

Traditionally training has been on earlies, but going forward trainers are able to bid for late flights instead.

As said, Jet2 is all about hard work in the summer and quiet winters. Nothing will change anytime soon as it’s a holiday company. Trainers will work hard all year for obvious reasons, but you can apply for part time once in the company.

Hmm, that's not quite the position that was related to me, namely that applications for earlies had a very low approval rate, maybe ditto part time, which also is a significant pay cut.. So expect boring deep lates, and work days only limited by the fact that hours in the May-sept hit close on 100 hours. He didn't particularly like it there, which seems to tally with another guy here on pprune, who disliked it so much he left a 757 command to go EK FO.


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