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negativeclimb 26th Apr 2018 14:59

Hello gents,
i am looking around for my future and I might apply as relief captain 787 position. Can you help me to get the answer to my questions?

1. How is the environment in the company?
2. How long does it takes the upgrade to Cpt from relief Cpt?
3. Is easy to commute for those whom doesn't live in the base?
4. How good ar the chances to obtain FCO base?

thank you to everyone for your help, appreciate it.

Meester proach 30th Apr 2018 11:06

1. Good atmosphere
2. About 2 years depend on performance and if you upset anyone
3. Random rostering, not always easy. Main base LGW, expect standbys there.
4. Don’t know

negativeclimb 1st May 2018 09:42

Hi,
thanks for your infos, so looks not so bad!
Thank you very much!

AutolandIT 1st May 2018 10:24


Originally Posted by Meester proach (Post 10134124)
1. Good atmosphere
2. About 2 years depend on performance and if you upset anyone
3. Random rostering, not always easy. Main base LGW, expect standbys there.
4. Don’t know

How standbys work? How many can you expect in a month?

whitemonk 1st May 2018 13:30

What is the take home pay for an FO? BCN or LGW?
Do you have to pay the bond in cash?
Is it commutable, currently based in the Northern UK but looking to move to PMI.
Cheers

Luke258 2nd May 2018 09:59


Originally Posted by whitemonk (Post 10135194)
What is the take home pay for an FO? BCN or LGW?
Do you have to pay the bond in cash?
Is it commutable, currently based in the Northern UK but looking to move to PMI.
Cheers

Depends on where you live. If you live abroad the UK and there's a DTA in place they will transfer you the salary as gross salary. You will have to pay taxes on your own behalf. It all depends on where you live.
The bond can be either a bank guarantee where you pay around 1-2% interest or you can pay in cash. However you won't receive any interest on your money. I'm considering a move to PMI as well. I expect around 4300-5000€ net.

Luke258 2nd May 2018 10:01


Originally Posted by negativeclimb (Post 10130820)
Hello gents,
i am looking around for my future and I might apply as relief captain 787 position. Can you help me to get the answer to my questions?

1. How is the environment in the company?
2. How long does it takes the upgrade to Cpt from relief Cpt?
3. Is easy to commute for those whom doesn't live in the base?
4. How good ar the chances to obtain FCO base?

thank you to everyone for your help, appreciate it.

During the last bidding period most of the people got the base they applied for. I guess getting FCO base shouldn't be a big problem

GKOC41 2nd May 2018 16:24


Originally Posted by AutolandIT (Post 10135036)
How standbys work? How many can you expect in a month?

Standbys the curse of a Commuting Pilot least you enquired before you joined - my experience is most don't....

Meester proach 2nd May 2018 17:33

Ask rishworth aviation , they’ll have all the TCs.

how many standbys ? How long is a piece of string, “ variable “

samca 2nd May 2018 22:33

So if the bond is through a bank guarantee you need to negociate the amount with your own bank like a loan??. I though you sign a document with the company and that it was enough.
I don’t know if my bank is going to Agree this kind of “loan”...
let see...

VinRouge 3rd May 2018 04:23


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10136583)
So if the bond is through a bank guarantee you need to negociate the amount with your own bank like a loan??. I though you sign a document with the company and that it was enough.
I don’t know if my bank is going to Agree this kind of “loan”...
let see...

It's called a promissory note and means the amount payable depends upon set conditions. Usually, you will need some form of asset (house) or the money in the account before they will provide one.

samca 3rd May 2018 08:05


Originally Posted by VinRouge (Post 10136713)
It's called a promissory note and means the amount payable depends upon set conditions. Usually, you will need some form of asset (house) or the money in the account before they will provide one.

unbelievable why don’t sign a normal bond like in other companies?? With the pilot shortage that they are suffering and doing this things

NEDude 3rd May 2018 10:49


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10136821)

unbelievable why don’t sign a normal bond like in other companies?? With the pilot shortage that they are suffering and doing this things

Word is they do not have a pilot shortage. They apparently have enough pilots in their "pool" to staff another four months worth of OCCs. But hiring is slowing down and the upgrade for this late summer is cancelled. Six 787s are being leased out, and three deliveries have been deferred. So basically things are now at a standstill with Norwegian long haul.

Meester proach 3rd May 2018 18:55

6 have been changed to a sale and lease back, but still with NAS/NUK

samca 4th May 2018 06:39


Originally Posted by NEDude (Post 10136923)
Word is they do not have a pilot shortage. They apparently have enough pilots in their "pool" to staff another four months worth of OCCs. But hiring is slowing down and the upgrade for this late summer is cancelled. Six 787s are being leased out, and three deliveries have been deferred. So basically things are now at a standstill with Norwegian long haul.

and the reason for that is pilot shortage???

VinRouge 5th May 2018 11:11


Originally Posted by TangoAlphad (Post 10138238)
No, the change to orders are nothing to do with crew shortages.

Any hints?

CaptainProp 5th May 2018 15:59

I thought NEOs were always planned for 2019?

on time all the time 5th May 2018 18:49


Originally Posted by OMDB30R (Post 10051361)
They don’t use the “Inn” they stay in somewhere quite nice in OAK.

Korean crews stay at the Premier Inn LHR T4. I saw a full crew the day I was staying there in April. Yes it is not a 5* hotel but it is very comfortable and extremely well sound proofed.

nilcostoptionmyass 22nd May 2018 16:30

Today...
i love the way the marketing men sell it. As a pilot, you can fly anywhere. If the company fails, you will get another job. Who’s really interested in ‘new a/c and load factors ?
’new deal’ ?
Really ? Looks like the lowest paid long haul 787 job anywhere in the world ?
£5500 take home for a 787 skipper in U.K. with 28 days leave ?
am I missing something ?


Smooth Airperator 22nd May 2018 19:20

That translates to £95k before tax annual salary according to my calcs. There was a guy here saying as a year 1 CPT he earned £128k.


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