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Chris2303 23rd Oct 2017 08:13

There's about as much chance of that happening as the German Accident Investigators investigating fume events!

gearlever 23rd Oct 2017 10:13

Wait - they have to "investigate" the go around of AB at DUS.....:ugh:

Less Hair 24th Oct 2017 14:33

So what happened to easy said to take over parts of AB? All quiet today.

RAT 5 24th Oct 2017 15:03

Could ez have used AB's AOC in some way rather than an Austrian? Too late now I guess.

MKY661 24th Oct 2017 15:05

Looks like Niki will be Integrated into Eurowings Europe:
https://www.reuters.com/article/air-...-idUSL8N1MZ2G0

(I thought this would happen btw)

Denti 24th Oct 2017 18:59


Originally Posted by RAT 5 (Post 9935262)
Could ez have used AB's AOC in some way rather than an Austrian? Too late now I guess.

Well, one of ABs AOC probably, there is still one in the works currently in which easy has reportedly a minority stake (Aeronautics GmbH). However, that is probably only needed to transfer slots, not for flight operations, they do set up their austrian at the moment.

Talks are ongoing, couldn't get much out of the easy guys today. Easy is holding a week long interview marathon in berlin for air berlin crews, both flightdeck and cabin, simulator events for the flightdeck crews are scheduled throughout november and probably into december depending on simulator availability, they try to get as many as possible simulator slots in SXF instead of gatwick. First start date with easy is scheduled for 8th of january.

The article says that the flyNiki brand will vanish, but the company will continue to operate on its own under the eurowings brand. How many AOCs do they have there by now? Germanwings, Eurowings (Germany), Eurowings Europe (Austria), LGW, Niki, SN Brussels, TUI, Sunexpress Germany. I do wonder how such a complicated setup is supposed to compete with real LCCs.

Rescue3 25th Oct 2017 18:11

that's a lot of AOC's - but LH is german so no oversight or questions from either the german government but more specific the european union [MMC].
So if a german [or probably a french] airline whats to do whatever they want it seems to be they can.................... domination comes to mind

Sea Eggs 27th Oct 2017 02:46

What's Easyjet doing? How come they are not closing the deal?

atakacs 27th Oct 2017 07:49

I'm sure there is some hard bargaining / poker play in progress...

The Flying Cokeman 27th Oct 2017 22:48

Deal has been signed today. 25 planes from Tegel from next year and up to 1000 crew members from Air Berlin will be recruited over the next months.

pabely 28th Oct 2017 07:18

So what happens to airberlin technik GmbH, I'm sure EZY would like to get their hands on that as well?

Non-Driver 28th Oct 2017 08:11

Its a consortium between Zeitfracht and Nayak, presumably the former taking the cargo ops and the latter taking the maintenance. Nayak do line maintenance in several European countries for several carriers including EZY.

atakacs 28th Oct 2017 08:16


Originally Posted by The Flying Cokeman (Post 9938727)
Deal has been signed today. 25 planes from Tegel from next year and up to 1000 crew members from Air Berlin will be recruited over the next months.

Are we to understand that Easyjet will also operate from Tegel (I guess it's unavoidable given current SXF capacity)?

kcockayne 28th Oct 2017 08:27

This is very good news for Air Berlin’s crews. Congratulations on joining a top rate airline, after all the uncertainty of recent months. I hope that it will all work out well for you all.

Denti 28th Oct 2017 10:07


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 9938943)
Are we to understand that Easyjet will also operate from Tegel (I guess it's unavoidable given current SXF capacity)?

Yes, 20 to 25 aircraft will be based in TXL additionally to those already in SXF. Apparently the Terminal C, formerly mainly used by air berlin will be very orange soon.

Smooth Airperator 28th Oct 2017 10:54

Nothing for Condor/Thomas Cook Group? What about the 330?

Denti 28th Oct 2017 11:04

Not yet anyway, there should be some capacity left for Thomas Cook, but it has been very quiet about that.

The A330s are long gone, Lufthansa and Eurowings do fly some of the routes now, operated by Lufthansa for their routes and Sunexpress Germany and Brussels Airlines for the Eurowings routes.

gearlever 30th Oct 2017 11:31

Open letter to AB pilots.....
Offener Brief der Eurowings-Europe-Belegschaft - Austrian Aviation Net

lederhosen 30th Oct 2017 18:48

One very noticeable aspect is that Easyjet has a reasonable reputation as an employer (not perfect but dramatically better than Ryanair or Eurowings for anyone who has been in the business a while), which should be a learning point for the other would be employers. They can make promises but when they need pilots the potential employees will look at the long term track record rather than hot air.

pabloc 30th Oct 2017 23:18

Apparently Easy were going to buy my old outfit,Monarch,but hey ho must have been asking to much!!....I digress,sorry back to Air Berlin.


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