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I don’t work for Jet2.com...look closer to home.

Even so, a lot of the other airlines could be considered ‘proper’ compared to this lot.

The wonder of the 5/4 roster is wearing thinner than managements claim that pilot salaries average between 125-150K per annum

I'd understand your point of view if anything like that had ever happened to me. I've rarely heard of pattern changes except on command upgrades or base changes.

As I say, the stable roster pattern is extremely helpful for those with families and childcare needs. It need not be 5/4, it could be 5/3 or anything else, but provided it's predictable, it makes planning possible.

Really? In what way?

Hello, just out of curiosity; what would be the best Ryanair base regarding pay and living conditions?

Catania it is then!

Me thinks Doppio might have a closer affinity to Catania/Italy than Vastreas/Sweden.

ryanair DEC pension
 

Hi Lazydog, can you confirm what you said about the pension is correct,
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks

Ryanaid don’t ‘give’ you £8000 for the pension AND up to a further £8000 more matching your contribution of £8000. That’d be £24,000 a year into the pension.

They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 they’ll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k they’ll put in £8k.

For what it’s worth too, and unless I’m mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DEC’s will get the deal we said no too. Funny isn’t it.

#cantwaittoleave

VJW, what happens to FO’s already in the company upgrading to CPT? Do they get the new deal?

What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?

Under EU labour law it is necessary to treat equal contracts as equal: i.e. two employees doing the same job on the same contract where one can not be treated 'less favourably' than the other. I once had such a claim against a company where a fellow captain had extra benefits allocated. His contract was a copy/paste of mine, but he had some dubious verbal agreements that gave significant unjustifiable advantages. It was not only against me, but all similar colleagues who were not aware of the set up. I complained & won in that the unjustifiable extras were removed. It was a shame as we were punting for being elevated to the same deal. As it was a dodgy deal in the first place there was only one realistic outcome.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.

Can anyone tell me if Ryan provide Headsets in the cockpit or pilots have to catty their own?
many thanks in advance.

Get yourself aq good noise-cancelling headset; it'll make your day SO much easier! (noise = stress!)

Yes, if you ask for a direct employment contract you’ll almost certainly get one as a DEFO.

I’d strongly advise against even considering the dodgy contractor option.... it’s a real Can of worms. If no direct contract offered I’d walk away.

All direct entry FOs and Captains are offered permanent contracts.

does ryanair pay for TR ? the market is on our side, so I will apply only if they pay for the TR.

No, they don't pay for TR.

Non rated Captains are bonded for three years. Only rated FOs with time on type or cadets recruited for the RHS. Rated FOs offered permanent contracts on joining. Cadets can apply at 1800 hours in the company If I’m not mistaken.

UK permanent FOs average around £3500 net. Busier summer months a bit more obviously.

Could anyone shed some light on Ryanair accepting ICAO ATPL for type rated DEFO. How much time is given on the validation before having to convert etc?

Many thanks!