Pay
I too Would also like to know what the current take home pay is for captain and fo's both on union and commuter contracts.
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Approximately €3500 gross for FO (contract) and €50 per diem
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DEC A330: The salary will be dependent upon your experience and total flying hours. Base monthly salary will range from €5,880 - €9,6500. You will earn 60EUR per day whilst in Iceland and an additional 60EUR per day of flying. You will commute on the first and last day of your 20-day rotation so the full 10 days will be spent at home.
Days off can be sold (pay rate will vary depending upon experience) Anecdotally, My understanding is that for around 5000 hours Airbus command you will be offered a salary of €7500/month. How many hours/experience you need to get €9600 / month isn't stated. For DEC not based Iceland, commuting tax will be deducted from whichever country you are going to live in (Ireland, UK, Denmark and Germany options at present) by The agency or non commuting tax will be deducted by WOW in Iceland. I have to laugh at how terrible the TnCs are even before you remove tax. Makes NLH the new high payer in lo co long haul. Tragic. |
Mein freund,
Think it twice if the job is offered to you by Eonis, -SS payment will be deducted from your salary, 4%, approximately 300€ will go to into his pocket. Paid nowhere, but deducted from you, how legal is this ? You tell me. -Your contract will be signed only by you, which makes you an illegal worker. -There aren't payslips, as most probably time to time, if not every month, some of your salary will be missing, per diems or overtime. You will not be able to find where the error is. -You wil be on your own, the company will be on his side in any conflict that my arise,.. " you should contact your agency..." Do some research before choosing your agency. |
Originally Posted by Frying Cog
(Post 9476122)
I would be very wary of any airline that is 'desperate' for pilots; there's usually a VERY good reason for their desperation.
Buyer beware. See Ryanair for details. |
WOW that's the bad!
Icemen are at it again. Can't believe a skipper will work his arse for 10k gross and no pension or any real benefits but I'm guessing there is no union in Wow. It seems if you want to make a career as a pilot in Europe nowadays you can forget it. I think I'll stick with 3rd world :mad: as they pay more and you can have a blast over there for pennies on your work days and come home with all your cash still in your pocket. Goodbye Euro LOCO never again! I even got a foreign ICAO license so I never have to give EASA a penny again for their overpriced ever expiring ratings and services. Enjoy waking up in some dump at 0430am on a cold Icelandic winter morning for a day of snowstorms, de-icing and max crosswind landings with a 500 hour hero siting next to you. Oh and Good luck getting a go on the A330. We've heard that one before haven't we and if by some miracle you are lucky enough enjoy no pay again during the CCQ. FR in the freezing snow!
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A bit of a one sided comment that one...
My 2 cents: a very good gig, but only on the LOCAL contract. The best t&c-s amongst the locos in Europe at the moment (except for ezy swiss of course...). And yes, it includes pension, medical, insurance, a liveable roster, plenty of paid holidays and a union who are actually doing a pretty decent job, imho. Not in a million years i would join on one of the agency contracts, but having moved here and being actually employed, taxed locally, etc. was one of the best decisions i have ever made. Cheers |
Interesting last post. I'm not interested in joining wow but would be interested in knowing your nationality when making that comment? Just out of curiosity and not judging.
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Originally Posted by booze
(Post 9908886)
A bit of a one sided comment that one...
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The local contract basic salary is still poor by industry standards and KEF is not a cheap place to live. Pity really - they seem like a reasonable outfit but they don't want to pay the money. Parc contract claims that you can get up to 9.5k basic if you're experienced. Those I know that have been through selection say you need to be a 320 test pilot, having retired from the NASA shuttle program to get anywhere near that. Those with 15 years on the bus currently being offered in the region of 7.5k gross.
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I hven been offered 9.4k gross, but then I didn't go for the interview because at the end the 20/10 is too long time away from home. I am 320/330.
Gross basic Salary € 7,305 Block hour pay 75 + € 150 Per diem basic €60 x 20 days total € 1,200 Per diem - additional for each flight duty day € 60 x 15 actual flying days €900 Expected Month Salary € 9,405 |
After tax in the UK or Ireland that equates to approx £5200pm with no pension.Not a disaster but surely not enough to persuade anyone who already has a reasonable job to spend 20 days a month in Iceland.
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Many Monarch guys applying for this gig. Any advice?
Also any details on the sim check. Ta |
Air monarch pilot avoid joining wow air
It’s a serious caution for AIR MONARCH’s Pilots To avoid joining WOW Airlines
,I left wow 4 months ago. Living conditions absolutely :mad:. They promised you the world but they never delivered empty promises. Feel you are living in an open prison. They render absolutely zero SOP in their flights. Everybody does whatever they want and actually nobody cares. Very unprofessional cabin-crews with zero experience. |
Are there any photos of the accommodation available please?
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I asked the same question to the agencies recruiting for WOW and there aren't any photos. Easy to make some photos but the reason why there aren't any, you will see if you join...
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Through which agencies are they recruiting? The only one I know is parc aviation
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Ok, what about a brief description. Facilities inside, nearby, maid service?(kidding), laundry etc
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Brief description. Old NATO buildings. Everything old and everything need an overhaul but all very slow. Nothing to do up there and you will be miserable on your 20 days up there. You'll be stuck in your room, which is a one room with a toilet. You sit and eat in the bed that you sleep in. Before and after your flight you'll be in your room and just counting down until your next 10 off days. Even on overnights in the US you now have CBT and prepare for sim.
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Is there Wifi available? Many thanks.
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Yes there's wifi but there are so many other problems with the accommodation that good wifi can't make up for it.
I can't imagine that you'll find just one contractor who is happy here. Contractors are leaving in big numbers. |
I really start to wonder about the people posting on here. Are you guys actually there? I've been there myself and spoke to pilots and they're not pessimistic at all about the job and conditions.
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In the posts I've written I know what I'm talking about and see it every day. What you have to consider is if you are a contractor or a local or on a local contract.
A special set of rules seems to rule for contractors. Also the housing they offer is of a low standard and nothing is done about it. Don't want to go in to details but there's a reason why people leave after a few months.. People always looking for something better as soon as they have joined but it is a paycheck... |
Parc need to tell the Wow management that the current accomodation is unacceptable. |
Originally Posted by EAM
(Post 9911133)
I hven been offered 9.4k gross, but then I didn't go for the interview because at the end the 20/10 is too long time away from home. I am 320/330.
Gross basic Salary € 7,305 Block hour pay 75 + € 150 Per diem basic €60 x 20 days total € 1,200 Per diem - additional for each flight duty day € 60 x 15 actual flying days €900 Expected Month Salary € 9,405 Do they do a contractors contract direct to your company? |
hi guys can you give me some info about the latest recruitment process. Is it true that they focus on PM task and will assess only on this PM duty?
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The Ts and Cs are the same by the looks of it.
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Pension/LOL/ medical ?
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All excellent on the local contract, not sure about the Parc one but I'm not expecting too much from them
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"Iceland is the Dubai of the North". He must have a different map of the world to mine. |
CEO interviewed saying they are looking at new hub "where its warm in the winter" and about to announce first Asian destination that will be served by the 4 new A330-900s arriving this year.
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Sounds like he is trying to talk up the value of WOW in the hopes that someone will buy him out. |
Has there been any further news about possible bases in Europe? There was talk of Dublin, possibly Stansted, Spain.
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Any current updates on wow? Spoken to a few old colleagues and they seem to like it. Salaries seem to be amongst the best being offered compared to UK. Cold and wet but company seems to be young and forward thinking. Command upgrade with experience around a year. Is this bull****? |
Mesh, Upgrades are fairly rapid if you have the experience and like any airline as long you tick the right boxes. Cold and wet? Summer is mild. Winter bloody cold with winds that cut your blood supply off. Winter flying challenging due to weather. The cost of living is expensive. LHS320 |
Originally Posted by mesh
(Post 10233152)
Any current updates on wow? Spoken to a few old colleagues and they seem to like it. Salaries seem to be amongst the best being offered compared to UK. Cold and wet but company seems to be young and forward thinking. Command upgrade with experience around a year. Is this bull****? CP |
1.1m ISK net average pm (no kids), an additional ~140k ISK into a pension fund of my choice and 36 weekdays of paid vacation per year with 5 consecutive requested off days pm on the local contract for a skipper is not too bad now, is it?
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Not bad - that’s Easyjet part-time (75) money. The commute contract is nowhere near that though. |
Last i heard from my mates at EZY that they are netting 7-8k EUR pm with a pension less than at WOW on full time as skippers...
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Easy’s Pension isn’t good - 7% but when you add loyalty and perf bonuses in the overall package is a country mile better than the Wow ‘commute’ contract. The Icelandic local contract looks much better but I’d say permanent residence in Iceland would be an acquired taste for many given the climate. The Wow offering is miles ahead compared with the likes of SAS IRL, Wizz etc. |
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