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Cabair351 13th Sep 2014 19:02

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 
Hi,


I was offered a position and start date with Ryanair recently (Direct Entry FO) but then it was withdrawn as my agency informed me Ryanair wanted to concentrate their efforts on Captain recruitment and training for the foreseeable future. I am currently in their hold pool. Just wondering if anybody else is in the same situation and what the chances are of being called in the next few months?


Thanks in advance.

cargosales 13th Sep 2014 20:29

Ryaniair (sic) FO Hold Pool
 
I'm not but I would venture that your chances will be much better if you learn to spell correctly the name of your prospective employer.

BluSdUp 13th Sep 2014 21:06

Holdingpool?
 
Hi.
I do not thingth spelling is the bigest problen hear!
1
No Direct Entry FOs in Ryr ,ever!
2
No holdingpool, whatever that is in aviation.
Mr Jaws just left for a better place.
So if You are in Ryr holding pool, start heading for shallow waters, speaking of shallow,,,.
Tides out.

Bobermo 13th Sep 2014 21:21

BluSdUp, check your sources again...

Welcome to Ryanair!

Cabair351, I can confirm that captains get priority at the moment, unfortunately I have no info about waiting time, although I can assure you they are running tight on FO's aswell as on captains..

My opinion of course:ok:

Coffin Corner 14th Sep 2014 03:39

Cabair351, just as bobermo said, hang in there and you'll get the call eventually.

Cargosales, get a life, anyone can clearly see it's a typo. To think you actually took the time to jump on the pprune spelling police bandwagon; pathetic :mad:

Cabair351 14th Sep 2014 06:19

Ryanair Hold Pool
 
Bobermo / Coffin Corner,


Many thanks for the replies. That's good to hear.

Aluminium shuffler 14th Sep 2014 07:47

Cabair 35, if you already passed the assessment then you will be given a job. At the moment they are moving FOs onto permanent staff positions and off contracts, so you could pursue the same, but you may have to have done a year on the line to get that.

As said, they are trying to get the capts sorted first as we are short of both and capts are harder to source, but you WILL get called. Don't turn down other good job offers if they come, though.

Cabair351 14th Sep 2014 08:07

Ryanair
 
Thanks mate.

Callsign Kilo 14th Sep 2014 08:42

Cabair 351

Its all about the training department my friend. They are closing in on max production. 6 sims spread across 3000 odd pilots plus a thinning level of trainers both in the sim and on the line. More training positions advertised, but they will need to be trained too. Yes, the focus area will always be the left seat but as others have said, the right is a bit sparse too. For a variety of reasons there is a focus on DECs. It doesn't take too much prodding to reveal why. The big 'from the line' rumour is they are going to open up UK bases for DECs as the Morocco, Southern Italy and Greece option wasn't a big hit. Only a rumour so I have no authority on it, but it HAS been done before. Can't see how this will stem the tide as I personally know half a dozen skippers awaiting assessments and start dates with other airlines.

Not sure what their plans are for the right seat, however I would see a mixture of experience and zero experience cadet as the planned option. Basings will be the usual Russian Roulette. Wait it out but if something else comes along then...:ok:

All my opinion. You'll get there though. Best of luck

Cabair351 14th Sep 2014 09:33

Ryanair Hold Pool
 
Thanks Callsign Kilo.
All noted.

SR-22 14th Sep 2014 11:14

Same here as Cabair.. passed the assessment, but was then told that FO recruitment has been put on hold for now and that it would most likely continue in January as the focus now is on the left seat. But that I would be among the first to get a call once they start again.

PAPI-74 14th Sep 2014 11:36

No self respecting DEC would apply for their terms....

BluSdUp 14th Sep 2014 18:16

Bobermo!
I just checked my sources.
There has never in the last 11 years been a OCC , 4 simsessions,
with Direct entry FOs with 1500hrs of resent B 737-7-900 and a totaltime of 2500 hrs wich would be reqrd.!
Full TR diffrent story, who pays?

351:
Lets define a holding pool,? Dont call us , we will call You.!
Son , keep Your dayjob.

On the other hand , if You know your :mad: and can fly. Welcomm to the show.

captplaystation 14th Sep 2014 18:38

BluSdUp,

your comments would all have been applicable, for the last 11 years or so, but. . . . . . they are now very short, and are taking DEC's , which has been a while , and qualified FO's (not since 2003 if memory serves well)

Of course the focus is on Capt's, as they can be called to operate as FO's if required & are therefore "covering" 2 seats in any shortfall of crew on the day.


Get in, get your experience, and get out, as ( only in my humble opinion of course) any perceived "softening" of attitudes towards crew will only last as long as any shortage of same.

You have been warned :=

BluSdUp 14th Sep 2014 19:13

Cpt play.
Still looking forward to the first DEFO occ wonders.
Planning is one thing , executing another.

And Yes ,they are up the creeck ,no propultion. Canselations are apperantly happening on line.
True, me not know?

Is Bjørn doing any better I may ask, considdering the super contracts he is offering. Would love Your take on that. 300 plus required is the latest?
Thats a lot of sim-time and a few lintrainers working hard, Eh?
Good luck.

captplaystation 14th Sep 2014 19:25

Was told the other day that something seriously North of 10 FO's who joined from the filth in the last 18mths ( with the promise of "rapid" Command ) are seriously reconsidering their options having witnessed only one upgrade course this last (longish) while.

They are contemplating returning to whence they came from. . . . unthinkable ? well, viewed as part of a long-term plan. . . maybe not. Those that had the foresight to leave on amicable terms will be welcomed back warmly ;) & given a VERY rapid Command (which they would have accepted no doubt 12-18mths ago anyhow had the T's & C's not been so woeful.)

Couple of years back there in the LHS & the world is your Mussel (sorry Oyster . . . . or was it Clam )

Several years more in the RHS in NAS (as a Contractor mind you , not even in Core) when you have Command Hrs is not what these Dudes signed up for (neither was Summer in €10 a Beer Norway either, but that is another story )

BluSdUp 14th Sep 2014 19:45

Cpt P
Command is king for Senior FOs,indeed that is a pearl branded before.!

You did just propose local pay-scales based on ale . Super, all for it,

Lastly, never mind cpts, what is the offisial recruitment estimate for Bjørn the next 12 months. Retirment, new aircraft netto etc.
365,5? One a day, Think of a number!?
Anyway ,got to fly,Nite

Skyjob 14th Sep 2014 21:16

BluSdUp check your sources.
There was a minimum of 1 DEFO course in 2008, even with one on a Ryanair contract as an FO...

galwaypilot 14th Sep 2014 23:22

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 
I'm ex FR and I'm 'toying' with the idea of going back! I think NAS is heading FR direction? I believe people's minds are 50/50 with that statement.

Everfly 15th Sep 2014 07:20

I am not sure what the problem is with those people comparing Nax to Ryr, the fact that they are both lowcost doesnt mean anything regarding work conditions...

Since I joined Fr, the conditions have gotten worse and worse... payscale,roster, holidays...
I have never seen a single bonus or improvement in 8 years Time !

When I am comparing this to what I have now, I wish I would have done it before.

I am sure a few left Nax to go back or to the far east but the vast majority is Happy here and there is so many jobs offer at the moment ... Why go back ???

Of course this is only my humble opinion. :)


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