BluSdUp,


Rather like your singular wit, unique (not in a good way) style of messaging and not to mention atrocious spelling you seem to be one of the few people I have met in this business who have never heard of a 'hold pool.' That's HOLD POOL not 'holding pool' - God only knows where you read that from but it wasn't from my original post.


I wont reply to anymore of your posts. After all, there are many young, impressionable minds on this forum who may well be mistaken in to believing your trolling is a perfectly normal way for a 50 year old man to reply to what was an entirely reasonable question.

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 

Rang storm to see whether I can come back, but they have a hold on FO's! And the priority is DEC and cadets. So they can't be that stuck for FO's considering they're willing to wait for a cadet to finish line training!

Stuck enough to roster captains together on a flight due lack of FO's...

galwaypilot, who did you leave for that you wish to come back? Sorry just being curious. Obviously Ryan aren't the worst if there are some willing to return! Regards SAR

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 

Ah I know they're stuck, getting the €€ from the NTR cadets vs getting TR guys into the right seat to fill the gap. I can't say who I joined for obvious reasons. But another 737 EU operator.

I believe even since I left (Jan this year) it's got worse in FR. The reasons for me contemplating a return is the roster and commuting. As the roster here is off the walls! It's got worse since I joined. Thus commuting is nearly impossible.

Yeah it seems to be the one bonus for Ryan, the roster! Best of luck with whatever you end up doing galwaypilot!At Least you have jet experience and are in a job at present, a huge head start on many others.

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 

Yea exactly... But listen it's hard as FR has no regard for their "employees". And as long as MOL is in power. It'll remain that way. It's not like he needs the cash.

Depends how long it takes to get a DEP on the line?

I always think it is a mistake to take leavers back. They left in the first place because they were disgruntled and there is nothing worse than having a disgruntled employee. My last company had a no-return policy. During the 19 years that I was there, we only ever had one "returnee". He left again within 6 months!

Does anyone have any idea when they'll start taking pilots from this 'Hold Pool'?

Well just like I posted earlier in this thread, I was told probably not until January

DEFOs
 

3 Nov 2008, OCC was conducted with 5 Direct Entry type rated FOs although FWIW all have now left, 3 went to a longhaul airline, one is now running his own business and the other one held onto the foreign licence and didn't change to IAA.

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 

So I see the last 6 comments have been deleted! Can a moderator say why?? Anyway, so if you wanted to return, who do you contact. PB or DR...?

Interesting.... :ugh:

Well, it may have been for our benefit, probably not though. Ryanair have a history of obtaining the identities of Pprune members who've posted stuff about them, and they've been forced to make a substantial donation to charity and issue a public apology, under threat of litigation. To my mind, that breaches freedom of speech, but there you go! :ugh:

If people don't know what Ryanair are like by now...

All in my own humble opinion of course :mad:

Guys has anyone heard of any DE FO assessments of late?

No....seems to be cadets and internal upgrades ....

Ryaniair FO Hold Pool
 

Well they can be that stuck as the likes of I and many others who are ex FR guys have heard nada. It's that or we're not wanted!

Thought this would be as good a place as any to pose the question.....
Reading other threads here it is clear other European Locos have been getting worse by the day, especially our friend in the northern region with the red jersey. So is FR as bad now in comparison to the others? Also has any of the new FR welcoming, kind HR been extended into the flight deck or is it business as usual? Are crews seeing any improvement in their base choices, I had heard that was one of the strategies to try and stop the exodus. I presume the exodus north will now grind to an almighty stop!!

Nothing at all has changed at RYR except the mgmt are very keen to emphasise that fuel loads are the commanders' decision and no pressure is to be applied to us to take minimums when operational factors are such that more fuel is prudent, and more people are being moved onto permanent employment from contracts (I suspect just a forced reaction to the investigations and possible prosecutions by numerous EU authorities). That latter issue is resulting in new captains having appallingly low pay (E45k basic!), but at east as employees it's easier for them to get credit/mortgages. Basing, leave and rosters are unchanged.

So, Ryr is looking a better place to stay only because so many of the others are getting even worse, not because Ryr are improving.

Ask new FO's with €150 000+ training debt if they see a bright future in Blue Yellow & White..