Originally Posted by nrn
(Post 10363417)
You are aware that you cannot transfer your license anymore if you haven’t started it by now? |
Originally Posted by NLP
(Post 10363385)
It's 7 I believe and I hope to be nr 8
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One of the key reasons for the 777/787 rated campaign is exactly the same reason as the A320 rated campaign - training capacity. The BA training system is running full speed and rated applicants get through the system in less than half the time, using half the resources that a non rated pilot does. Looking at the bid results, a seniority of 3400-3500 where people are moving Airbus to Longhaul seems pretty much bang on 5 years in the company. The numbers are simply representative of the amount of recruitment that has gone on over the last 5 years. |
Originally Posted by pilotting
(Post 10363225)
But why would you not recommend moving to BA? There is growth coming up, preforming among the best in the market?
The best flying job is flying for a legacy in your home country. Dutch pilots going to KLM isn't an accurate reflection of "deterioration" in BA as some would have you believe. |
Originally Posted by pilotting
(Post 10363225)
But why would you not recommend moving to BA? There is growth coming up, preforming among the best in the market?
If you want to fly SH and LH then only Air France- KLM and Lufthansa remain. AFKL has almost no growth, financial performance is behind compared to the rest, costs are increasing instead of decreasing and fly also 850-900 hrs LH. Lufthansa, might be a comparable option to BA., they have growth, good financial results. But also there you fly 850-900 hrs. People always tend to act if everything is better at the airline they work for. But actually they do not tell you how they really feel. ‘’It is always better at the other side’’. Our job is changing unfortunately and this is industry wide, unfortunately everywhere we see fatigue. I think the aggressive strategy of Lufthansa and BA is the only way to survive, because eventually we will get a new financial crisis . They start making reserves, which is good. If we talk money, then I fully agree; BA should align with the other legacies. Profit share and a significant pay increase. The same what happened with the other legacies. |
Originally Posted by speed freek
(Post 10363985)
Because it's fashionable to badmouth the company whenever possible.
The best flying job is flying for a legacy in your home country. Dutch pilots going to KLM isn't an accurate reflection of "deterioration" in BA as some would have you believe. And here is the reason why we end up in the state we do. I love it. People here have genuine gripes & issues. A lot of us have come from other airlines (are you at BA? were you a cadet?) and have had other experiences- some good, some bad. I am NOT badmouthing BA. I am simply relating my previous experience to my current one. Flying SH airbus from LGW/LHR. I am trying to give people my opinion on the actual reality of working here. Not someone on Instagram/Facebook trying to impress everyone with their fabulous rosters and wonderful work life. If I was really 'Bad mouthing' them my posts would be far longer and would probably be removed by mods for my colourful language :E. Why is the best job legacy in your home country? I have plenty of friends working 4 on 4 off home every night at their regional base on part time contracts earning far more than I do in their loco, but I suppose BA is better because its a legacy, right? You are crazy if you can't see the decline in T&C's at BA. People are leaving, back to where they came from. They are struggling to fill LGW commands. They are getting SH offers refused left right and centre. It has got nothing to do with being fashionable and in all honesty I think you are just insulting those of us that actually go against the grain and don't pretend BA is this utopia that some love to pretend. Ill leave that to the centenary pin wearers :ok: |
are you at BA? were you a cadet? If I was really 'Bad mouthing' them my posts would be far longer and would probably be removed by mods for my colourful language :E. Why is the best job legacy in your home country? I have plenty of friends working 4 on 4 off home every night at their regional base on part time contracts earning far more than I do in their loco, but I suppose BA is better because its a legacy, right? You are crazy if you can't see the decline in T&C's at BA. People are leaving, back to where they came from. They are struggling to fill LGW commands. They are getting SH offers refused left right and centre. It has got nothing to do with being fashionable and in all honesty I think you are just insulting those of us that actually go against the grain and don't pretend BA is this utopia that some love to pretend. Ill leave that to the centenary pin wearers :ok: In the mean time I have the opportunity to fly long haul for an airline making money and I'm in my home country. I'm a simple person. That makes me happy. |
Speedfreek : "Allegedly. All I know is my position on the master seniority list continues to go up as a percentage."
Surely the number (%) must be getting smaller ? |
Speed Freek:
Crew food is almost identical. Just as unhealthy and arguably less variety (LGW). I didn't eat it at easy and try not to at BA. In Almost 3.5 years I had the oven u/s twice. Went into terminal and got hot food which we then charged back to the company. Night stops weren't min rest LIN is currently 16 hours, INV 17 hours and MAD 16 hours (on lates) . Some long links in the summer but when they tried to pair RAK with INV it lasted about 2 weeks before people kept going fatigued and it got canned. Jersey night stop is paired with Marrakech and Tirana at BA. In summer landing about 0230. Max FTL days were there in the summer but when you'd had too much you went fatigued and weren't bothered with ridiculous emails in response. After 2016 Balpa got significant alleviations at the planning stage to avoid max FTLs. I was there during the 'near walk out' and it was a horrendous summer. 17 was far better and from what I hear 18 was a similar story. I didn't do single days off, I didn't do 6 day blocks, when enough was enough I made the professional and legally correct decision to report fatigued. I wasn't interrogated about my commute, I wasn't told I had to bid for more days off, I wasn't told I shouldn't do things before work on lates. I wasn't told I was 'simply tired' and that it was 'hard to see what was fatiguing about my roster construction'. People are leaving - check iBid rosters. Why did they have to do a supplementary bid then? Why did the command go all the way to the bottom of seniority list? Hardly strikes me as a particularly popular position. Post on yammer says several people failing to turn up for courses and lots of refusals. Had several friends refuse SH from ezy alone. SH BA is a long way from EJ SH in my experience. I work far harder and get far more hassle for the privilege. Cant speak for LH but as my previous post states- I wouldn't join here for SH knowing what I know now. |
Any idea on the number of easy Captains leaving for BA or swimming in the pool? |
Hi all, could anyone tell me if he/she was able to book stage 2 these last couple of days? Cheers |
Red 9, yes quite right. Yet more clear evidence I can't multi task :}
MikeAlpha, it's very clear both our experiences of both companies are widely different, such is the nature of this job. But to help the people on the outside make an informed decision - if it's that bad here why don't you leave? It seems, like myself, you're junior enough it's non-jeopardy and you could be on a part time command contract earning more money like your mates before too long. |
Originally Posted by 737 Jockey
(Post 10364281)
Any idea on the number of easy Captains leaving for BA or swimming in the pool? |
Originally Posted by speed freek
(Post 10364326)
Red 9, yes quite right. Yet more clear evidence I can't multi task :}
MikeAlpha, it's very clear both our experiences of both companies are widely different, such is the nature of this job. But to help the people on the outside make an informed decision - if it's that bad here why don't you leave? It seems, like myself, you're junior enough it's non-jeopardy and you could be on a part time command contract earning more money like your mates before too long. it is happening , it isn’t all rose tinted , open your eyes . I have been in my new job for less than a month and already feel much more relaxed and excited |
Originally Posted by red9
(Post 10363820)
then I am 9
. ... |
Originally Posted by Riskybis
(Post 10364334)
but people are leaving , I have recently left , I know that their is a course starting in April which is ALL BA guys and girls , it is happening , it isn’t all rose tinted , open your eyes . I have been in my new job for less than a month and already feel much more relaxed and excited at easyJet do you mean? |
Originally Posted by speed freek
(Post 10364326)
Red 9, yes quite right. Yet more clear evidence I can't multi task :}
MikeAlpha, it's very clear both our experiences of both companies are widely different, such is the nature of this job. But to help the people on the outside make an informed decision - if it's that bad here why don't you leave? It seems, like myself, you're junior enough it's non-jeopardy and you could be on a part time command contract earning more money like your mates before too long. Who is to say that I'm not? LGW commands have gone very junior ... back for DEC easy for a 30k payrise and fixed roster 5/4/5/3.... :ok: |
Originally Posted by 737 Jockey
(Post 10364385)
at easyJet do you mean? |
Why anyone would leave BA for Virgin I'll never know - frying pan, fire.
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Riskybis, I never said everything is rose tinted and perfect. Read my post again. And if you did go to virgin I know many guys there who are unhappy and looking at their options. Deteriorating Ts and Cs are but one of many reasons someone might choose to leave. Without asking we won't know their reasons. Maybe being based in Liverpool is suddenly more important than working for a blue or red legacy. But whatever, don't let that get in the way of a good BA bash.
MikeAlpha, good luck to you mate. After 10 years I couldn't do 5 earlies anymore. Hope it works out for you. |
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