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At the risk of getting lynched by my SH colleagues, my junior LH roster has around 14 days off, plus or minus a couple. That said, my fleet is having a relatively quiet period due to certain, ahem, technical issues – I can’t speak for the triple or jumbo guys.
And while some LH ‘days’ might finish at 0800, I’m usually so knackered that the rest of that day is a write-off, and often the following day as well. |
Short haul junior trash - Above CAP and 13 days off in August and only one evening where I won’t be having dinner at home with my family. Pretty standard month, definitely can’t complain about lifestyle. (Although I probably will) Pay could be better and I’ve got high hopes for the new BACC, feel like the tide has turned and we’ve got great expectations of what can be achieved if we’re prepared to get behind them. |
Originally Posted by WhatTheDeuce
(Post 10210340)
Short haul junior trash - Above CAP and 13 days off in August and only one evening where I won’t be having dinner at home with my family. Pretty standard month, definitely can’t complain about lifestyle. (Although I probably will) Pay could be better and I’ve got high hopes for the new BACC, feel like the tide has turned and we’ve got great expectations of what can be achieved if we’re prepared to get behind them. |
Heathrow. Clean slate after JSS comes in though, as far as lifestyle goes watch this space I guess? |
I wouldn’t worry too much about JSS just yet. I don’t think we’re even close to its implementation right now. Not enough pilots, software issues plus the elephant in the room of the BMI zippering issue which isn’t even close to getting resolved. I honestly wouldn’t be at all surprised if we’re sat here this time next year still using bidline. |
Has anyone else been waiting several weeks for a sim assessment dates to be released?
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Originally Posted by pilotting
(Post 10209984)
Hi guys,
Been browsing the internet, but could not get any info on the BA rosters. Can anyone tell how many days you can expect to be off on LH and SH per month? I assume this will also differ in summer season and winter season? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by overstress
(Post 10211378)
Would have said in LH there's not really a seasonal difference in how hard you work - on my fleet it's simple - flat out all the time :ugh:
As for JSS, much as many would like to see it’s introduction delayed I suspect the quite reasonable gripes from the troops won’t change a thing. I hope I am wrong but I suspect once recruitment and training have got enough bods on the line it will be introduced faster than a rat up a drainpipe....and then to borrow a phrase, it’s “posh blindlines” for everybody. |
Waiting for Sim date
Originally Posted by clvf88
(Post 10210795)
Has anyone else been waiting several weeks for a sim assessment dates to be released?
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Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 10211702)
I suspect once recruitment and training have got enough bods on the line it will be introduced faster than a rat up a drainpipe....
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Been invited for stage 2 interview/group assessment, been reading through every page of this thread to get prepared but was wondering if anyone has attended recently and got any recent updates?
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the BMI zippering issue needs to be resolved first. The two parties are absolutely miles apart at the moment, there no easy solution that’s going to satisfy both parties and I would suspect it ain’t going to get resolved any time soon. |
Nice! the junior BMI guys get stuffed. That said even the senior ones too. Join at the bottom and stay at the bottom for your entire career. No progression from a rostering stand point. No choice, low to no roster satisfaction and all enforced by BALPA. I even took this up with AB and all I got was a shrug of the shoulders. |
I won't pretend that I have followed the zipper debate in minute detail but I do know it was a source of great angst (putting it politely) among many long served BA shorthaulers so there are obviously two sides to that debate. I got the impression from AB's e-mail that running with a dual list wasn't exactly something the company wanted to do and it was something that was going to be subject to continued negotiation... More interesting (to me anyhow) is the fact that management are willing to back down slightly/temporarily on this issue, which was a blocker to introducing the new rostering system, and accept the hassle of two lists, all in order to get rid of Bidline and get JSS up and running quickly....you'd almost think management think there is something in it for them :E |
Originally Posted by bex88
(Post 10213542)
Nice! the junior BMI guys get stuffed. That said even the senior ones too. Join at the bottom and stay at the bottom for your entire career. No progression from a rostering stand point. No choice, low to no roster satisfaction and all enforced by BALPA. I even took this up with AB and all I got was a shrug of the shoulders. Anyway back to the thread... good luck to those applying. |
Originally Posted by BASHLH
(Post 10213934)
Steady on bex... all EMBA as it were have had the choice from day 1 to go to LH in the RHS, continue in the LHS or take up until recently out of seniority protected commands. In fact all the Commands this & last year were protected... only 2016 saw it drop to & past their seniority. Not bad considering they joined BA in 2012 having commands & RHS LH since day one, whilst others senior to them had to sit out their 5 year engagement freeze. But I like others didn’t complain as it was the deal that was signed. If they’re junior & in the bubble that’s their choice! Could have gone to LH & be nearly 50% for example on the jumbo.... & if I’m not mistaken it was the bmi list that chose to turn down the last zipper solution not the BA list.... Not a bmi bash but let’s state the facts, most feel they’ve done very well. It’s the same for BA guys, was on the bus the other day & a junior BA SH skipper was complaining he’d gone down 3 or 4% & it wasn’t fair.... we’ll could have gone to LH.... his choice, you only have to be junior once! Anyway back to the thread... good luck to those applying. |
Bex88.... No choice, low to no roster satisfaction and all enforced by BALPA. I even took this up with AB and all I got was a shrug of the shoulders. I think you will find Bex88, Balpa have done exactly what they are there to do...consult members, ballot, and when no agreement was reached escalate this as a failure to agree with the company. Bigger battles ahead, such as the up coming pay negotiations, which will have a far greater effect on the careers and lives of all the pilots within BA. Maybe this is why Flt Ops capitutaled on it?? |
Originally Posted by Tay Cough
(Post 10213977)
The trouble is, the EMBA FOs, who got their commands based on their ACTUAL seniority (nothing to do with BMI), were forced back into the BMI bubble against their will. Why is that allowed?
Good luck to those applying. |
Makes no difference to you Kendrick, it only affects the ex BMI captains and all of them are senior to you wherever they end up anyway. This thread is historically known for thread drift (guilty in that respect myself) so don’t worry too much about it. Personally I think JSS will be better for Short Haul (virtually no one wants a mixture of daytips and tours which is all 90% of the Triplines are, although it remains to be seen how effectively you can build a roster consisting of either day trips or tours and a lot will depend on seniority/knowing the correct JSS tweaks). I suspect for Long Haul it will be a ****show compared to Bidline, but who knows? |
So is this thread way off track now or is all this relevant?
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