Bex88

The point I was making is that the offers etc had been out for a number of weeks but that those in the know had elected to keep stum. PPRUNE is not the font of all things aviation.

Does anyone know how many a320 offers went out.....any other offers made?

As was mentioned by others a few posts back, defo a handful of offers for the triple, and I think a few for the 744.

As someone on the 744 in BA, we're definitely short of FOs...loads of uncovered work and the caps are high!

As someone on the 320 in BA, we're definitely short of FOs...loads of uncovered work and the caps are high (5 hours above normal cap)!

60+ are leaving the fleet in the first quarter heading to long haul fleets and are in training at the moment.

FOs on long term sick, FOs dossing about giving power point presentations on JSS whilst the rest of us work our asses off, the CAPs will always be high.

Student88 😂 the JSS bit...love it so true

One in particular!

With a guess of around 600 FOs SH at LHR, a reduction of 7 FOs for JSS training brings a CAP of 90 hours to 91 hours. I can see why you're working a lot harder. Poor you!

I’ll admit to sometimes wondering about some of the reps time, but before chucking brickbats I suppose someone has to ask: have those doing the JSS training been pulled off line to do so or are they just doing the “job” in their normal BALPA days but are visible for once.

FWIW there’s at least one Longhaul C status list where CAP is well above normal and I somehow doubt that is down to individuals getting involved in JSS training.....

Basically everybody on a fleet with working engines seems to be pretty busy....:E

Actually the rosters for March are pretty :mad:. CAP is 93:11 for FO's on the Airbus. Out of 307 trip lines only 11 of them will be sufficient for me to reach CAP. If this is March, what's the summer going to look like.

Would be great to see new guys coming in.

Obviously it's not the 7(?) guys out of the 479 FO's leading to the high CAP. It's the many people being promoted to LH or Captain (fantastic news btw). If I would run the show I would start at the bottom and make sure we have enough FO's on the Airbus before people leave the fleet, but I guess the beancounters don't want to have 10 FO's too many on a fleet...

Edit: Reading Wiggy's post, everyone seems to be working hard. Hope they get the recruitment machine up and running to the maximum.

Err....right, nice in theory, ideal world etc, but be very careful with that thought.

The 7 JSS trainers do about half their CAPs with Ground Days, either writing material or doing presentations, etc. So in fact it's 3.5 FOs worth of available FOs that have been taken away from the 320. None of them are BALPA reps. Normal line FOs who applied for the job.

Ah OK, I haven’t been in a position to actually attend one of these sessions so far but I stupidly assumed (yes I know) they were reps so many thanks for clearing that up.

Writing material? Like stand up comedy?

Must be nice collecting all those Caffè Nerro stamps I guess.

Even a CAP increase of 1 hour can make the difference between having to pick up another day trip or not.

90 hours = 20 x 4.5 hr credit day trips, so 100-140 trips to be picked up by everyone else, so essentially 100-140 people with one or two less days off.

The only job for experienced pilots advertised on the BA website at the moment is for Cityflyer DECs.

:confused:

Err ...that’s no doubt true because of the FPPs arriving and the DEP hold pool

Expect some DEP 320 rated soon. They'll get as many 320 rated guys from the pool if possible to do a short typerating. Current holdpool non rated pilots might be surpassed by a new DEP round for rated guys/gals.

About 170 DEPs still in the holdpool. With the current plan all of those will get an offer in 2018. (Perhaps not on the position you have applied for (LH))

Horse's mouth

And they’ll receive a five year freeze for that whopping three sims on the Operators Conversion Course.
(Dons flak jacket, retreats to safe distance).

I hope that’s for short haul only? I reckon there won’t be too many 74/77/78 rated guys and gals in the pool. Seeing as one has entered the LH pool as a regional jet jockey, one hopes to receive a call :)

Thanks for any updates from within lads! Much appreciated.