Couldn't agree more.
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justagigolo77 I don't think I would fly or let my family on a Canadian airline, I mean at least with easyjet cadets (and British Airways/Monarch since its the same training school) they go through a tough selection and are trained by ex long haul skippers, mil fast jet guys and the occasional Red arrows mavericks in easyjet, so their getting the best training and are switched on people, in Canada you get trained by some ppl civilian cowboy out of a back garden shed in the middle of nowhere and fly around like cowboys with high accident rates due lack a SA and ability which is fine in your propeller driven aircraft with few SOB but its bad news when you need to fly something big and fast carrying many people when you need to be ahead of the aircraft and understand many systems.........................now how much of moron do I sound????? :ugh:
And btw I fly for easyjet and haven't paid for a type rating as I'm sure about 70% of pilots at ezy haven't. And for the record would you let your family fly BA/KLM/Lufthansa? Knowing that the skipper prob flew 100hrs 15years ago in a light a/c and pushed buttons in a jet ever since, sitting next to a 200hr cadet...and guess where the vast majority of experienced f/o's came from in BA's last 2 intakes :} |
Oh how employers must laugh when they see pilots on forums like this!
This whole situation is borne out minimum cost to the company and all the time they can get away with charging people for training they will. For me, the main question is, are they employing the best available talent for their flight operation? And the answer has to be no. Because they have been excluding experienced guys in previous recruitment. And now experienced guys are getting interviews, they are turning it down as the offer is derisory. |
The point of this thread isn't to make employers happy, it's to give information to those who are thinking about a career in easyJet.
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Absolutely - well said Epsilon Vaz. Deep and fast - Firstly, absolutely anyone of experience could apply, and many have done. Secondly, many experienced pilots are accepting easyJet's offer. And yes, we are getting some great people. And yes, like every employer who wants to stay in business, it is a judgement - they pay the least they can to get the right people. You may not like it, but that is the way the world is. And finally, it is a great place to work - there will be very few disappointed people who come here. Those that are will find they are much sought after by other top airlines who know exactly the product they are getting from an easyJet pilot. No easyJet pilot has any difficulty getting another job if he wants to leave - it seems win-win to me.
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Many are accepting perhaps. Unfortunately I won't be. I have had a better offer, simple as that.
No malice towards Easy, on the contrary I think it will fit in with some people very nicely indeed. For me I had another offer which fits in with my personal aspirations and circumstances better. But that's life and it's good to see EZY taking guys. There is a few amongst my ranks who are very much looking forward to changing from blue and yellow to orange. I think Alexander has been a very helpful insight into EZY on this thread and it's unfortunate that he/she seems to be getting a fair amount of flak for doing so. |
it is a judgement - they pay the least they can to get the "right" people. AdM, I recommend you stick to selling car insurance.:ok: |
King Dong, I wonder why the "right" people would choose Easyjet when there are other airlines who are paying more and charging less, or nothing!
Maybe Easyjet are getting the "right" people from what's left after the other airlines have had their pick. ;) |
My dear Lord Spandex Masher (= Alexander de Meerkat).
For "right people", read employees, not customers:ugh::ugh::ugh:: |
What are you smoking King Dong?
If you want to discuss travelling with easy then post on the right thread. |
What are you smoking King Dong? |
Well you shouldn't smoke, it zaps brain cells. :=
Anyway, why are you suggesting that AdM and I are one and the same and what's your point regarding "right people"? |
"They pay the least they can to get the right people".
That is EVERY business is it? No, it isn't. Most businesses pay the going rate - and there is a subtle difference between the two. |
Just to clarify, Lord Spandex Masher (fine chap as I am sure he is) and myself are categorically NOT the same person!
Regarding the 'going rate', when 3500 highly qualified people apply for 200 jobs, do you think that rate is going to be higher or lower than if there were only 200 pilots available and several companies were competing for their services? The 'going rate' is what a company has to pay in order for people to accept, not what they would like or think they are worth. I would like to be paid £200k+ a year and be given a posh car to go with it, but, as that is somewhat more than the 'going rate', I may have to adjust my plans accordingly. |
Are there still some people in the "Talent Pool" waitting for the contract offer?
Has anyone been offered an european base ? |
The number of applications is somewhat irrelevant as many will be speculative from guys in jobs that ultimately decide to sit tight.
Pilots, they're always fishing but don't always eat what they catch! |
Are there more people ready for command than there are places?
LHS T&Cs will decrease materially for new captains. |
Koubri - I take it your still waiting for a firm offer?
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Does anyone have any idea whether there'll be another round of recruitment in the future? Any ideas when?
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FANS - Thanks for your insight on that. I am delighted to see that has been revealed to you before it has been revealed to any employees of easyJet.
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