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BluSdUp 16th Dec 2018 12:45

Hi
A general question on all Norwegian operation.
Rumor has it that all recruitment has stopped!
Anyone in the training department or in the process that can deny or confirm this?

Smirf420 16th Dec 2018 13:57

Heard the same thing. Rumours are about major restructuring after Xmas as the company are out of cash.
IAG seems to be the rumour of the week, again. Hope for the best ��

lansen 16th Dec 2018 16:07


Originally Posted by BluSdUp (Post 10336923)
Hi
A general question on all Norwegian operation.
Rumor has it that all recruitment has stopped!
Anyone in the training department or in the process that can deny or confirm this?

We are simply not recruiting direct entry RCA or CPT anymore. People are already flying 40-50h max each month. Loads of people going for upgrade. And we are overall pretty staffed up for the next couple of aircraft to come.

MHR_738 16th Dec 2018 19:18

I fear it is a little more complicated than just not recruiting DE CPT/RCAs. Having passed the assessment in August of this year, and hearing very little regarding course start dates, an email came through in the last few days (4+ months later) saying there will be no course dates for the start of 2019. Coupled with the fact a number of roadshows appear to have been cancelled in the last couple of months, presumably they were not solely intended to attract DE CPT/RCA, I would conclude either NAS recruited/attracted far more qualified RYR pilots than they hoped for, or they are having to scale back growth expectations inline with available cash.

Piscator 17th Dec 2018 09:41


Originally Posted by MHR_738 (Post 10337141)
I would conclude either NAS recruited/attracted far more qualified RYR pilots than they hoped for, or they are having to scale back growth expectations inline with available cash.

I think the latter..
I'm in the pool (CAPT787) and I got the same letter.
If it were RYR pilots flooding the 737, it would not effect the 787.

directmisbi 17th Dec 2018 10:37

Swedish aoc on its way, irish going out. Basically most if not all SH bases and some LH aircrafts also to be transferred. Swedish tax on flying gone, so a bit of shuffling at the moment. I believe recruitment will commence again after new years.

Piscator 17th Dec 2018 11:17


Originally Posted by directmisbi (Post 10337542)
Swedish aoc on its way, irish going out. Basically most if not all SH bases and some LH aircrafts also to be transferred. Swedish tax on flying gone, so a bit of shuffling at the moment. I believe recruitment will commence again after new years.

That sounds much better;)
Any more info on that?

Icejock 17th Dec 2018 19:47

The Swedish AOC is already up and running, although unclear when and how many A/C will transfer, currently 1 Max on the AOC with 1 more to follow soon.

dcoded 20th Dec 2018 19:44

Latest rumor today is that Norwegian has canceled some initial type rating courses.

Any one on the inside can confirm this?

freddy747 17th Jan 2019 02:01

Bases are being closed and people are getting laid off.

directmisbi 17th Jan 2019 06:06

People are not getting laid off but, offered a transfer to long haul or other bases in the network including some of the Scandinavian bases.

dirk85 17th Jan 2019 09:39

Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?

Icejock 17th Jan 2019 09:55


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10362949)
Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?

and exactly where has this info come from? Not via any of the companies nor the unions channels?

dirk85 17th Jan 2019 09:59

Company meeting with unions, info all over the place this morning.

Icejock 17th Jan 2019 11:42


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10362980)
Company meeting with unions, info all over the place this morning.

and where does it say anything about meals, hotels, percentages?

jonesyinthesky 17th Jan 2019 12:09

lets be honest, internal comms is very poor, i mean, somebody from RYR broke the news on LinkedIn re base closures before most us knew!!!

jonesyinthesky 17th Jan 2019 14:04


Originally Posted by Icejock (Post 10362972)


and exactly where has this info come from? Not via any of the companies nor the unions channels?

IALPA, The Irish Pilots Union

Jetavia 17th Jan 2019 20:39


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10362949)
Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?


Well that info sounds like it came directly from O’leary’s office.. it’s BS, no such reductions as of yet.. just like Norwegian did not go under at New Years eve or was taken over by IAG on january 2nd.. stick to what Norwegian communicate, nothing else..

lansen 17th Jan 2019 20:55


Originally Posted by Jetavia (Post 10363518)



Well that info sounds like it came directly from O’leary’s office.. it’s BS, no such reductions as of yet.. just like Norwegian did not go under at New Years eve or was taken over by IAG on january 2nd.. stick to what Norwegian communicate, nothing else..

Sadly, this is not fake news. It's all true and also communicated from the company just like this.

The removal of the crew meals and other factors relating to the hotel accommodation is however related to the 737.
The pay cuts however aren't.

The options regarding the pay cuts are apparently:
1: 7% FD / 4% CC
2: 5,8% FD&CC

Nothing is decided there yet however.

Shema Y'Israel.... or what should I say.

737 Jockey 17th Jan 2019 20:56

It’s from the BALPA comms sadly. These are just ‘options’ for the time being.


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