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Artic Monkey 15th Feb 2013 22:02

Yes RexBanner, I am one of those Flybe monkeys. Like you I missed the cut-off last time due work and the short window, but it won't stop me applying should they open it again.

Superpilot 15th Feb 2013 23:39

Thanks again mesh. One hundred FOs starting April tells me this number is more to address 2014 recruitment plans as to get a FO that interviews in April to be able to leave his job, join, train and then be released will take him/her towards the end of Summer, no?

Once again good news and here's hoping they call the hold-poolers in first.

mesh 16th Feb 2013 09:20

Not quite, we will start to interview again in April the products of which will start late this year early next. this will be to finally crew us up to the ever increasing number of aircraft that we are getting. As far as hold pools and the like we will run this like every airline business. We will split the intakes into thirds as before, 3rd type rated, 3rd non, 3rd CTC. This is to spread experience levels. Of the two thirds non CTC we will take the best which will mean that if you are the best and you come to us in April for first interview you will get a position in front of someone who is currently in the hold for interview but scores lower than you when it comes to the interview. If you have been offered a position but no start date then you will join when a relative course starts. Flybe and Easyjet guys will not push the others out. The make up of the non type rated course will remain as is, some turbo some military. When it comes to the type rated you will stand the same chance coming from Easy as you will coming from most airlines. Easy just happens to be an airline whose product seems to be well trained and a safe bet. In the end and as you see with a lot of interviews you can only do your best. The Market, the interviewers and the needs of the company will ultimately govern whether you get the job and you can't change these so don't worry about it, just try your hardest. Having been to Luton recently I have to say though the company is buzzing again it's great. A lot of new good guys and girls joining us and a great place to be....

Centreline747 16th Feb 2013 21:33

MESH
 
Thanks for the update. Re-assuring news for all concerned!

hobnobanyone 16th Feb 2013 22:09

Mesh - thank you very much for your insight. Feeling a little bit reassured about it at the moment. Although the rollercoaster of emotions in the last few weeks has been incredibly unsettling - it's very reassuring that this recruitment drive looks like it might go ahead - and equally how the process is undertaken.

Another flybe pilot here - here's to the lot of us getting ourselves sorted out soon.

It's been a miserable month or so.

spottyemm 16th Feb 2013 22:40

I understand it is likely to be nearer 60 recruits needed for winter 13/14 with the first course starting in September. Obviously this number may rise a little if a few of our more 'mature' pilots decide that they can't face the increasing tax burden and retire or go part time.
Although our interview is incredibly relaxed a personal recommendation from someone within the company still goes a very long way to securing that invite to interview. That said many of this years recruits had no previous links with the company at all.

I have no information as to when applications might open but April/May certainly looks a decent bet.

Good Luck all.

Superpilot 17th Feb 2013 02:32

Thanks guys. Don't suppose any of you know how many candidates are currently marked "Hold / Hold for interview" within the database? or perhaps an educated guess?

(Sorry if I'm annoying you with all these questions :ooh:)

101325 17th Feb 2013 09:57

Given the multitude of applicants that applied during the last recruitment phase and that currently find themselves 'on hold for interview' will monarch actually open their application again? Or simply hold interviews off the pool of applications that are currently awaiting interview?

Seems we are all a little confused on this matter? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

It is however reassuring to find that at least one carrier remains to save the day for those of us who have worked hard and struggled against the deluge of those willing and able to pay for everything.

Best of luck to all come march/april and those within flybe, thoughts are with you all.

CEJM 17th Feb 2013 13:59

I would expect the company to first interview the pilots who got their applications in last year. However some of the pilots who applied last year might no longer be interested now easyJet offered some permanent contract to the flexicrew.

Very difficult to say what will happen. I have heard a different figure then the one mentioned by Spottyemm. But as we all now, in aviation it is all rumour till it actually happens. What the management decide today can change tomorrow etc.

Best of luck to you all. :ok:

mesh 18th Feb 2013 08:59

It's difficult to second guess how some on the top floor will decide who gets the nod but they do have history of being fair. I would suppose( and as usual just my opinion) if they have guys who have been offered a position they will honour those if a related course comes up, having said that there seems to be confusion between hold pool for interview, job offered. I don't think there are many people with a job offer and no start date. The basic fact is if we open the interview door again then we are going to interview and there is the possibility of a job. We will as always take the most suitable candidate. Monarch are not like BA, we do not have the man power to see thousands of candidates just in case. When interviewed you are not seen by HR and a recruitment pilot, you are usually interviewed by two senior management pilots. This means we are more targeted with our interviewing and we will not have a big bunch of Flybe guys with job offers waiting to gobble up the next course. The only guys that have a job offer will be a case of us miss calculating a course number at the last minute. If I had a couple of thousand hours and relative aircraft type I would forget about who's had an interview how many of the next jobs are gone etc and just concentrate on getting my arse into Luton in front of these two and securing the job

mesh 18th Feb 2013 09:09

Just another thought as Flybe seems to be mentioned a lot. I have had the fortune to meet some of the courses coming through. The first non type course I met consisted of 1 fast jet ex RAF, 1 heavy transport ex RAF, 2 Flybe, 2 Cityjet, 1 Bmi Baby,1 Eastern, 1 Ryanair. The next non type rated, 1 Flybe(ex RAF), 1 Sentinal(RAF), 4 BMI Baby. Type rated were largely Easy Flexi. Age wise and I hope the guys don,t mind me saying this but on the current course we have some guys around their 50's. All I'm trying to say Is if you are not Flybe and fly a turboprop or if you are business jet etc you stand an equal chance.

SEAMASTER 18th Feb 2013 09:52

Just to add to this I know of two guys who passed interview selection a few years back, then got placed into the hold pool and never got asked out of it and still don't have a job with us. That tells me more suitable candidates were interviewed at a later date, it happened to me with TC in 2004, it's just the way it is in this game !! The moral is nothing is done until its done, if they want you, you will be offered a position, if they don't you won't ! simple !

Phenom100 18th Feb 2013 11:20

Mesh,

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for keeping us ALL updated on the recruitment situation over the last few month's. It's been extremely valuable to us all. Thank you. :D

For once i can say PPRUNE has been useful, which is a pleasant and welcomed change from the usual moaning, bitching which seems to be rife here on PPRUNE.

go around flaps15 18th Feb 2013 11:27

I second that! Thank you very much Mesh.

What Now 18th Feb 2013 12:53

Thanks Mesh jolly helpful. I look forward to the opportunity to fly with you guys some time.

alpha.charlie 7th Mar 2013 13:40

"interviews in the next couple of months ready for courses beginning in September. Actually the first course in September will be cadet entry pilots currently under training. The following months will see courses for type rated and non-typed rated pilots to support the ongoing airline expansion requirements and the retirement of some current airframes"

Good luck all :ok:

cgwhitemonk11 7th Mar 2013 15:56

Applying?
 
Just wondering will there be any opportunity for those with CV's on file to actually apply this year? I was too late registering last time so the job links were gone by then unfortunately.

nomad_07 7th Mar 2013 16:00

Does anyone know how many non-type rated pilots may be taken on? The updates by email are so refreshing compared to other companies who give no update! Hopefully there will be another one soon judging by above post :)

mesh 7th Mar 2013 17:13

I believe we will open the doors again to new applications. Roughly a third recruited will be non rated.

McBruce 7th Mar 2013 18:08

Any idea how many applications are on hold? are these on hold for interview or an additional screening process?


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