easyJet Pilot Recruitment 2012
 

There have been rumours about easyJet taking pilots from turboprop and military backgrounds again. Unfortunately they do not appear to be true. One of my mates sent me this article from some pilots' internal newspaper that came out today. It makes sad reading for anyone hoping to join easyJet any time soon who does not have an A320 rating. Here it is:

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Summer 2012 Pilot Requirements

Although Summer 2011 is not quite over, attention and focus is turning to the pilot requirement for 2012. Preparations are now well underway. This coming year we will once again be looking to achieve a mix of experienced First Officers and cadets joining us over the Winter in preparation for next Summer. The first new entrant pilot course starts on 05th September! *

Cadets will once again join us from both CTC Aviation and Oxford Aviation Academy whilst experienced pilots will join us via Parc Aviation. However you will also shortly see us advertising for direct entry Senior First Officers on our easyJet Careers web portal. At this stage we are looking to select and assess pilots to create a holding pool of A320 type rated pilots that possess a full ATPL to support our growing command requirements well as ensuring that we retain a diverse age and experience profile to meet our future pilot requirements. *

To enable us to assess all of the new pilots we have booked 22 Assessment centre dates starting on 13th September 2011 through to the end of March 2012. The assessment centre comprises 2 days. On day 1, 12 pilots will be assessed for their non technical skills, encompassing group exercises, group discussions, interviews and competency assessment. If the pilot is successful on this day then they will progress to day 2 which is in the simulator for a full sim assessment. Only after a pilot passes both of these stages will they be considered being offered a contract to fly for easyJet or employed directly. Our pilot entry route is the same process whether a pilot is applying for a contract via Parc Aviation or for a permanent opportunity. These assessments are being run only for A320 type rated experienced*pilots only although it may be extended to non type rated experienced pilots at a later date. In the meantime assessments continue for FlexiCrew pilots moving to permanent easyJet contracts with an assessment centre for FCO basings this week. *

Not really. This is the first signal that they cannot get enough pilots because too many are leaving for BA and the like. Now they need to go out to see if they can get more but guess what: they are harder to find than 73 jocks. So expect to see more favorable terms and recruitment of non rated pilots once EJ realize they are not out there.. Even a top employer like German Wings have a hard time finding them. Let's face it EasyJet is not an until retirement employer and will start loosing more and more pilots over the next year.

More interesting: if you are now in OAA or CTC would you go:
A) to a LCC with limited to no career prospects like long haul or different fleets and where you have to pay for your rating
B) go to BA and get all the things the LCC is not offering...

In other words the OAA/CTC supply will dry up for the EasyJets and Ryanairs of this world!

So lot's of changes and not a time to be sad! :ok:

I think they may struggle. Mass exodus/Middle East/better terms/bonding from other airlines, may water down their pool somewhat.

Out of interest, how are easyJet able to take on so many 200 hour SSTR'ing bods (via CTC and the like) whilst other airlines are restricted by the CAA?

Not sure this is something to be 'sad' about. Going to the open market to recruit Direct entry pilots is the first sign that the wannabe-p2f well is drying up. It is utterly logical that the first foray into the market would look for typed people first - even BA did that this time round. Then once they guage the numbers they will probably spread the net wider.
All of this is good news - because it doesn't matter who is recruiting what from where - it creates churn in the system and jobs everywhere.

Not sure I have quite the positive take others do on this. On one level it is true that type-rated pilots are the first port of call for any airline. The reality is that in order to do that you have to go to airlines that you would rather not. BA can be choosy which airlines they recruit from, but easyJet cannot. Remember, these guys will be recruited specifically to be captains in a year or so - if you get through what will undoubtedly a rigorous selection procedure, then it will be a fantastic deal. From easyJet's perspective they have to take all the right people and that is easier said than done.

For me, it is a shame that the many top people from the numerous jet and turboprop companies not operating A320s are not eligible - not to mention the excellent ex-military types being hoovered up by Jet2, BA etc. For many of them, given they are often in their late 30s, a quick command at easyJet would be a much better deal than doing 15 years as an FO at BA. C'est la vie.

I thought eJ had a rather long Command waiting list already?

If so, how can these "lucky few" get a Command in a year? It doesn't add up.

Well apparently EZY according to no RYR for me, is not a airline you want to retire in so everybody is leaving, speak for yourself. Yes we have lost lots of pilots, most though are cadets who have said they would love to stay but they are looking for a PERMANENT CONTRACT and will apply to anyone who is hiring full-time on correct salaries, I can't blame them for that since I would if I was in that position.

As to what airline one wishes to retire in is down purely to what they are looking for in life. If your young and live in the London area then naturally BA is best choice since it offers everything from long-haul to short-haul. For me i would be commuting to go to work and living out of a suitcase and not seeing family for days. I would soon get sick of it. Likewise long-haul doesn't appeal to me, yes I would like to give it a go for 6 months to a year just to say I have done it but it's not something I would give my command up for in EZY and I couldn't care less about what metal I'm flying (I forget there is more of the plane behind me).

In today's market you will work close to the amount that is legally possible regardless of airline at the moment I average around 750 a year in EZY. Some of my friends in long-haul are more tired than I am and tell me once you have been to the places a few times it looses it's appeal, same with any job.

I like EZY because I get to live where I want to be, fly new aircraft, good mixture of routes and get to fly with some great crews. The package is not the best but it's not the worst, I always describe it as competitive unless your a cadet of course.

It is obvious though the experience level in the company is dropping hence them looking to recruit type rated pilots with experience but if I was a turbo prop guy I wouldn't be too gutted, as many have pointed out EZY will have a hard time finding these people and if I was a betting man I would say they will open the doors to you guys. There is a lot of work so it seems going on behind the scenes to improve things so we shall just wait and see. You will always get people who moan regardless of where they work.

I do agree I think there is a possibility that terms will improve to attract people and let's be honest they will have to for people willing to jump ship. I haven't looked at BA's latest drive in terms of cadets but from what I have read that people have posted it is the same deal that EZY and CTC ran a couple of years ago.

As I have said it's a lifestyle choice, if your a family man who doesn't live in the London area and want to see your kids grow up then EZY in my opinion is a good choice with opportunities for a quick command, paid well and one of the safest for job security around (based on my old contract).

(Having read all that back I do ramble on a bit sorry)

I think we'll see recuitment open up to those without a 320 type-rating sooner rather than later. EZY has only just finished last years' recruitment of 320-rated pilots through PARC. Europe was trawled to find them and the pool was found to be shallow and of limited quality. There were a considerable number who did not make the grade in the simulator assessment and they are unlikely to be any better this year. New suitable candidates aren't suddenly going to appear in large numbers.

Completely agree with wingswinger - I predict non type-rated candidates will be in demand very shortly. I wouldn't feel offended etc, going for T/R guys first is a no-brainer for training footprint and cost issues, but as said they'll no doubt stick with a good entry level and if chaps and chapesses don't meet that requirement they'll look elsewhere. With Easy, Ryan, Jet2.com, Emirates, Qatar, and seemingly everyone recruiting, things are finally turning!!

PS - BA Cityflyer also now recruiting FOs for Embraer jobs, with experienced and low-hours vacancies. I also see Jet2.com has a low hours recruitment stream open. Wish absolutely everyone the best of luck in what I think will be a great Autumn and Winter for recruitment.

From the emails we've gotten, the focus of the recruitment will be people with an unfrozen ATPL. The cadet pool is nowhere near drying up, their focus is commands in the near future.

Due to all the pilots being 200 hour cadets in the past years, they have created an experience gap whereby their command pool has decreased to such an extent that they need to bring people with ATPL's to upgrade them when the need arises.

So no luck on low houred outside applicants, you need to have the experience behind you but if you have the experience from a TP background then this might be the chance for you to go to a jet and get a quick command.

look,you can predict whatever you want, it' s not going to happen.I know this market very well.
USA unemployment 9.1%, in stagnation.
economy not good.can take a few years now to get it back pre 2008.I expect 7 years at least.

I can tell you they are not going to hire 200h pilots just because they are in short supply and becasue you have a license.Maybe in 2017.Maybe...!

If you look in the past, this industry has taken pilots with 200h only in 2006-2007 during these last 35 years, so it's not going to happen, maybe in 30 years.

Plenty of guys around with 320 and hours flooding this market,
Plenty of guys ready to pay a fortune for line training, and travel worldwide for fake interviews....these pilots even hired, will not make any money.
This is the industry today.Spend your money in this dream, or get out and keep your money.If you are in amd you leave early, it s money saved for your kids or retirement later.This is what I am thinking everyday when I wake up when looking at all these fake offers.

The guys here who are too optimist on this forum are the pilots who have still no job since years and hope for the best because they know 1 or 2 guys in this industry who hase been lucky, then these same desperate guys will be replaced by other teenagers who will hold the exact same discussions as you about this pilot shortage and still think airlines will be forced to hire 200h pilot with no jet and no t/rating....!in your dream only.It will never happen!

If I follow your reasoning, I must be an exception, because I have a 320 rating, hours, and nobody want me, and all I hear it' s guys like you(still at home with no flying job) with no hours and expired license telling me they will start to hire with 200h.

You are too funy!when I know the numbers in europe of pilot with no job, that I can count on thousand, enough to fill this market for the next 10-20 years.What about the 50'000-100'000 pilots freshly trained CPL , and the 2000-3000 jobs that airlines create in Europe? yes take you calculator, and tell me your chance in %...?

And to add the cherry on the cake, I receive 4-5 CV a week from guys with turbine experience looking for line training or ask me where they can pay for line training on 320.So tell me, where they are going to hire pilots with 200h now? there is no way to get a job at Easy for a 200h pilot with no type rating and no money!

What's the sim assessment like for DEFOs at EZY?

Usualguy

You made made an assumption about me that I am jobless and sitting at home. You are not correct.

I am not sure how many airlines you would like to see recruiting until you believe that things are happening. So the below are all facts, and all verifable:

Emirates recruiting constantly, they say they need 500 pilots in 2012
Flydubai is recruiting
Qatar Airways is recruiting ( and taking low hours pilots straight from FTOs)
BA has recruited 140 people in 2011 (who has backfilled those guys?)
BA has said they will recruit about 200 pilots in 2012
BA Cityflyer are recruiting FOs AND FOs straight from flying schools
Aer Lingus have recruited lately and opened a cadet scheme
Ryanair recruit heavily on an ongoing basis
Easyjet have taken masses of people straight from flying school
Jet2.com are recruiting heavily and taking low hours pilots straight from school
DHL are recruiting and take people straight from school
Bmi are accepting applications online
Flybe are accepting applications online as they prepare for people leaving

How many more airlines would you like to be recruiting?

This is not a dig at you, this is fact that there are jobs out there right now, you just need to keep plugging!

I thought that easyJet was making money before with their TRSS scheme (people joining with at least 500 hours JAR25- TP or jet)... apparently if what I am reading here is correct they'll keep on recruiting zero experience CTC/Oxford cadets and Direct Entry guys with hours on type (A320). That's not a good news :\

So does anyone know what the deal would be if / when they open it up to Non-Airbus TR, I wonder if it will be a reducing bond, the old TRSS / contributory etc.... ?

They are obviously keeping their cards close to their chest at the moment and testing the water to see how many suitable TR candidates they get!!

Good luck to the guys with a TR anyway.

Yes usalguy you need to change your attitude big time! What easyJet needs is naive people like Sawadee and ReallyAnnoyed! People with real tunnel vision who, despite the dark economic clouds gathering overhead, still believe that everything will be fine and that the government will make sure that the senseless and irresponsible borrowing/lending practices will continue so that airlines can fill their seats and hire hundreds of pilots.

Besides, all those promises and projections from airlines to hire aren't really promises and projections: they are cold hard facts according to the die hard positive thinkers out there. 1+1=....3! :p

There is a big economic sh!tstorm brewing (worse than 2008) but you have to be awake to see it. Sleep tight guys!

p.s. all those new cadet schemes, though good for those pilots involved, also mean very little DE hiring, so forget about ever being able to escape the 4 sectors/day, 900 hours per year low cost nightmare in the future. :{

Hip hip hurraaaaaay! :D

Oh my God. Boknjrirjjjder we got it, you love it where you are and everyone who is not at BA has it real bad.
So why don't you just go out enjoy your beautiful nightstops and leave the thread to whoever feels to be interested in the recruitment at ezy.
As per the economic crisis to be honest I don't think anyone is in the position to predict what will happen, this is for sure. But if I remember right in 2008 it was BA talking about redundancies not Vueling or Ryanair!

That's exactly why it's so foolish to suddenly believe that BA says it will hire 200 pilots in 2012! ;)

I'm far from a doomsday sayer, but one has to be realistic and look at the facts. There are lot's of 'models' and 'predictions' out there but in order to find the truth you have to look further than the main stream media. Just look at how the main stream media reports about an airplane crash and you will see why it's also naive to rely 100% on their reporting of economic and political matters. Besides, if the company I work for talks about "buying airplanes" then I believe it once those things are pained in the correct colour scheme delivered to our home base, and not before.

Anyway, in 2009 the US and UK governments spent massive amounts of money in order to keep the economies afloat. Money that they can no longer spend if the economy tanks again because of the mess inside the European Union. Again, don't believe that the US and UK will be spared by all this and that it's an isolated event. The US housing crisis had/has little to do with Europe, but we still felt the pain here.

So far the 200 hour cadets are the most vulnerable and the ones not 'fortunate' enough to join a low cost P2F program have been the big losers in this game, so the only thing I suggest is to take all the optimistic "hip hip hurray" numbers with a large grain of salt.

It ain't over till the fat lady sings. We passed the eye of the hurricane during the relative calm of 2010, now we get the full brunt again. If a bank like Goldman Sachs advices to "batten down the hatches" perhaps it's time to take off those rose tinted glasses...

p.s. yes, I enjoy myself during nightstops, it even gives me the time and energy to read other stuff not so much related to aviation and it allows me to expand my horizon that way! It's highly recommended, may I suggest the same to you Sir/Madam? :p

What a bunch of useless words put together...

Usualguy and Bokkenrijder,
Job is outside there, it takes time to find and often abroad but even lowtimers are welcome.. I got a job at the other side of the earth and plenty of seats available in South East Asia, friends of mine getting a seat in european airlines..

Don't know which experience or background you boast but please stop writing nonsense without factual arguing.

Usualguy, maybe this industry doesn't want you because of this attitude.....

Good grief. Can we keep this on topic and discuss news about easyjet hiring in 2012 and how best to prepare for those lucky enough to be asked for an interview?

I suspect that there are other threads where you can discuss how bad things are..

Any idea about hours requirements yet? Links to interview tips etc? I would imagine selection will be more akin to an upgrade assessment. Current easy crew.. Please keep us updated..

First of all, I think that easyJet is a good place to work. Secondly, guys going there as DE A320 pilots are well on the way to early commands, which can only be a bonus.

I think that usualguy is not really the muppet some of you may have assumed. I suspect that English is not his first language and consequently he may not have done himself justice in his delivery. His points are worth considering, even though I do not fully agree with his position. He is absolutely correct that there are thousands of unemployed 'pilots' in Europe. I use the word 'pilots' with caution as these are mainly people with no commercial experience but do possess a commercial pilot's licence in some form or other. There are considerably less experienced pilots with credible commercial flying under their belt. That has always been the case and always will be. Regarding usualguy's assertion that easyJet will never employ 200 hour pilots, it is absolutely not true - they have done throughout their whole 15 year + existence and continue to do so and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. What is true to say is that those pilots are taken from a limited range of flight training schools - specifically CTC and Oxford. These are essentially cartel-type deals where these schools charge staggering sums of money for courses with the unspoken understanding that a job will appear at the end. In addition, Oxford have a tie-up with a Dutch school called EPST (or something similar) and charge a pile of money on top for taking the pupils. The good bit is they arrange a 25 year (yes that's right) mortgage to pay for it costing around 1400 Euros a month for that loan period. The total debt for a young person working as 'flexicrew' for easyJet is around 195,000 Euros. It would make most people's eyes water, but there it is.

The next lot coming to easyJet are the MPL people - 95 hours total flying time and a lot of time in a sim. They are then going to be flying an Airbus round Europe. Pretty wild, but again that is the way it is.

Cockpit crisis - World - Macleans.ca

The above link is a long but interesting read as to why 50 aircraft have been lost in five years due to loss of control.

.............and now we require even less of new entrants through schemes like the MPL ???

.........anyway about Easy recruitment....good luck

A330 rated
 

At the moment I am cpt on 330/340.
I'd love to join Easy as f/o on the 320 because i see it as a long term job and because i want to move back closer to home (europe)
Considering the possibility to get an upgrade in a few years I think it really is a great chance. I am only sorry that the A330 at the moment is not considered.

Let's wait and hope:ok::ok:

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Don't hope to be a DE FO for easyJet. With your experience, you should be hoping for a resumption of DEC recruitment.

Give up a widebody Command to be an FO? :ugh:

Flareflyer,

your post sounds like a joke to me...... Or a free ad for Easy.... To leave a LH seat 330-340 for a RHS 320. means you don't need a salary..... They are good 330 jobs with bases in Europe! Just open your EYES.

Dear Labomba

I do not think you can judge my decision to give up a LHS on the 330 for a RHS 320.
I have been in the middle east for almost 8 years and believe me that not only me would swap that position.
I see Easy jet as a long term job. I'd obviously prefer a DEC job with them but I also understand that it is not respectful for those FOs enough experienced waiting their turn. We had DEC in our company and even if most of them are good persons it has not been the best decision.
I have to fly 20 more years and spending a few years on the RHS would be nothing compared to what me and my family would gain in lifestyle.
In my actual job I fly 90 hours a month, loosing an average of 8/10 nights a month with not more than 10 days off............ do you really see it as a great position??

Flare

Flareflyer,

The point really is that eJ don't seem to have enough future Captains, or if they do, the pool is pretty thinly spread it appears.

To me it seems eJ are not able to take DEC's in the sense of the word - even if they need them. Therefore, they take DE SFO's again and promote those guys almost instantly I would hope.

I stand by what I said earlier. With your pedigree, you should be aiming higher than the RHS for a few years at eJ.

Good luck in your application when you're able to submit it. I hope you succeed.

I think we are fortunate enough to forget that getting paid to fly big shiny jets, is still, at the end of a day just a job to pay the bills.

Its very easy to say that flareflyer should wait for DEC somewhere else, but I'm in a situation similar of being in a country/continent I don't want to be in, and where my wife is currently not residing.

Family should always come first, and it's only one of a few jobs, where family is sometimes put on the back burner far more then any other job I can think of.

Unless you're in that position, it's very hard to understand the logic of something thinking like this. My plans are to gain a Loco command shortly to gain enough experience to be employable as a FO on the type I'm already on, in the US (where my wife is from and currently studying). I agree with flareflyer it's a small sacrifice to make for a happy home life, and lets face it everyone in every walk of life wants that!

NR - There gets a point in time that regardless of the metal you're strapped to or the number of engines keeping you alive, it's the family and personal relationships that become more important.

I'm in a position where I could go off to the sandpit and in time fly anything up to the A380, or join BA and be away all the time - but my family wouldn't be happy - instead I'm quite happy to sit in the RHS on an A320 - brand new planes, 100 routes, home every night, great crews and the company makes money - the command will come in time.

Flare flyer is the guy EJ should be recruiting - both seats would value his experience. Do apply and good luck with it..

Dear NR,

I understand your doubts regarding my choice. It might sound quite odd to give away a job like mine for a job like easy-jet.
I flew long haul, medium and short haul, many days away from home and many turn arounds.
Now I have enough experience to know what best suits for me and my family.
Easy jet gives you the chance to have a nice job, quite various routes, good salary, multi language environment, and not to forget a solid background.
The rosters are designed to maximize the flying hours but also to have proper rest (something that where i work now is absolutely disregarded).
Maybe the only doubt is for my wife.......... will she be able to see me everyday:}:}:E:E????

I can completely understand where flareflyer is coming from.

Im in the M.E aswell but I'm an FO on the 777 and although it would be quite a big paycut for me. Im hoping that Easyjet will open up to non type rated guys!
Trust me after a few years in the M.E you will understand why :ugh:

And yes I have applied to BA just waiting for an interview slot, but I would also very happily take a job with Easyjet.

To be back home in Blighty even with all it's problems, will more than make up for the pay cut and loosing long haul!

Maybe my post was ambiguous.

It's not about long/medium/shorthaul.

It's about giving up a Command. If you've never held one, it's impossible to know the implications.

I wish you all the best Flareflyer. You have sound reasons for your hopes - your family and sanity.

My concern would be how long it may take to regain Command, especially if the West takes another tumble.

Good luck.

There is always a risk in moving to another company, but Narrow Runway is making a calculated decision that seems likely to work out. From easyJet's perspective he is exactly who they want to apply, as he can be a captain easily within a year. As others have said, there are no guarantees, because if Stelios gets his way the expansion will be curtailed significantly. Also there is some economic uncertainty - that has always been the case. A factor to consider in that is that easyJet may do well from an economic blip as other less fortunate carriers go under. EasyJet have had a fantastic summer and look set to return a healthy profit for the year ending Sep 30th (results to be announced early November).

If a whole pile of highly-qualified and capable ME-based Airbus-rated Captains/FOs apply for easyJet, and I think that is quite likely, then easyJet will see this as a vindication of their recruitment policy of the last few years. Loads of instantly-promotable FOs in place who were all paid for by someone else, all with at least a year of easyJet experience behind them - hard to argue that such a situation is anything other than win-win for company and pilots alike.

M.E?
 

Excuse my ignorance nutwrencher but what is M.E ?

So if and when they find that they need to cast the net out a little further to non-TR'd guys, does anyone have any idea of what might be on offer? TRSS again? If they were to make you pay for your type rating then I don't see why they would ask for A320 only in the first place as they wouldn't be paying for it! - Must want them on line quickly to upgrade them asap possibly...

Also I know they used to factorize hours, is this still the case?

Fonawah

M.E. = Middle East

NR

Not trying to pick a fight here but just how exactly is it impossible to know the implications of giving up a command just because I haven't had one yet?

I've never been out with a Victoria Secrets underwear model, but I certainly know the consequences of giving one up! :}

Funny how no one thinks it's crazy to give up a command to join BA because it is seen as the top job in the UK at the moment. All I am saying is that for a lot of people in the Sandpit looking to get back to the UK. Easyjet is worth giving up a command or taking a paycut, plus with the bonus that you are likely to get back your command much quicker than with BA.

very subjective, if not controversial statement.......

commuting to Heathrow, bottom of the seniority list, working every weekend and bank holiday, away all the time even on shorthaul, years if not decades to command.....

I couldn't think of anything worse !

Yes I agree it is very subjective, horse's for courses and all that!

What I should of said is a lot of people see it as the best job at the moment in the UK.

Seeing as around 2000 people applied for the latest BA selection and a lot of guys are leaving Easy to go to BA, which is one of the reasons Easy want experienced guys again.

Anyways apologies for the thread creep I will shut up now, and hope that Easy will open up for non-rated guys like myself.

Guys there will be 204 aircraft during winter 2011 in easyjet and there will still be 204 aircraft during winter 2012. And I believe the fleet is only expected to grow to 215 frames in total.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY FAST TRACK COMMANDS... if anything it will slow down.

Easyjet is getting a lot of criticism from the CAA for having a huge experience gap. At the moment in LGW the entire experience in the flightdeck is often only sub 4000 hours total! Yes that is captain and FO together.
And this happens to new captains 5 days in a row, accident waiting to happen?

Easyjet has to fill this experience gap, also BA has taken a lot of the more experienced cadets (1000hrs) so there could be a command problem in 3 years time. Although this is unlikely as the fleet growth will be minimal.
So I think they are looking to recruit guys who just unfroze their ATPL with around 1500 hrs under their belt. They just want to be sure there are enough bodies that they can upgrade if neccessary, that doesn't mean they will upgrade those bodies.

I wouldn't be surprised if this recruitment of DEFO is just to keep the CAA happy, and that easyjet would be happy to show the CAA they can't get any experienced FO's.

As for the economic crisis, it is very likely that the current BA recruitment has got everything to do with next years olympic games. What happens after that remains a mystery.....
And by now we all know how the legacy airlines were hurt in 2008...

The way in which EZY has structured it's initial and, more importantly, it's recurrent training mitigates the perceived risk of crewing two relatively inexperienced together. Indeed, two 3* (i.e. inexperienced) crew members are not allowed to fly together. Strict adherence to SOP's, ECAM & QRH procedures reduces the perceived risk significantly. The only area in which an inexperienced DEC/DEFO may screw up is therefore confined to poor commercial decision making and even that is mitgated by a requirement to consult with HQ whenever possible (via ACARS normally). Nevertheless, all new Captains are paid 90% of the normal basic pay until their probationary period is up, which is a form of compensation to the Company for minor commercial misdemeanors while the new guy/girl settles in. So overall, in EZY at least, I see no problem with the current level of experience in the flightdeck.