Info for pilots looking to get into Emirates
 

Automated e-mail received from EK recruitment:

"... We have placed your application in our Shortlist pool. Each time we need candidates for an interview program, we review the Shortlist pool to select the most suitable. Being in the Shortlist pool does not guarantee an interview as market forces ultimately determine who is at the top of the pool.

As you may be aware, we are inviting qualified applicants up to 500 hours prior to meeting our posted requirements , as long as they fully meet our requirements upon date of joining. ..."

Got interview invitation few days later.

Good luck to all applicants.

Interesting... most interesting.

Been told to expect the 2000 hour mark to drop further too!


Since when is the minimum requirement 2000 hrs? isnt it 2500 jettime?

In December in one of their pilot road show info session they said they would be needing 300+ pilots this year alone and 300 every year for the next three years, the 2500hr mark was posted by management but HR and the pilots are lobbying so that it drops much more...any insiders knowing if/when this is happening, and how low can it go?

Well StinkyMonkey, you seem so sure on that point, would you care on please making a comment regarding cumulustratus post, where has received an automated post?

no mention to aircraft weight...

Does every new hire at EK have experience over the weight limit? (I think is 121000 lbs)

short answer......yes

I know is sort of mentioned above but, any idea when they will be dropping the weight requirement? Will they just drop it, period? Or just reduce it?
Thanks.

not much longer before DEC positions will be , like it was in the past

SVP Flight Ops has said he doesn't want DECs if it can possibly be avoided. training is currently coping with the numbers needed so I wouldn't hold your breath.

BTW, the "Up to 500 hrs less" thing has been there periodically for years.

Pardon my ignorance. What's DEC?

Direct Entry Captain

Anyone else been called for interview in LHR with less than 2500 hrs yet?

Interview in LHR? I thought you had to come to Dubai?

Pre Assessment Interview
 

Just been invited to pre assessment interview LHR, Choice of three days 24-26 May. Anyone know what the Compass test is? and what it involves?
What type of things do they ask in the interview?
Thanks JW

Glass cockpit hrs
 

anyone who knows the answer please reply. is it a requirement by emirates to have glass cockpit experience for the position of a FO.

I can help with the compass test.

It resembles the DLR but not nearly as difficult. Usually there are 6 or 7 separate modules ranging from mathematics to hand-eye coordination etc...

Basic testing.

Speedy,

Not if you make the 4000hr TT, 2000hr jet requirement.

A non-glass jet would not make the "Modern" aircraft type required for the 2500hr limit.

emirates sim check
 

Does anyone have anything on the sim check in Dubai? Are they using different types? Would it be worth it to buy an hour or two of sim time beforehand?:confused:

Stay cool,

bannerone

They use 777 or A330 and it's a pretty basic routine, (well it was 4 years ago). If you fly jets for a living don't waste your money on sim time.

thanks dustyprops, I appreciate the info

I did hear or read somewhere recently (maybe in the ME forum?) that some non airbus rated guys are doing their sim rides in the old A310 sim, due to the 777 sims being maxed out with training…..:E

No.... They use 777 and 310:cool:

WK I stand corrected, as I said did mine 4 years ago and they used 330 then. Didnt know we even had a 310 sim anymore.

Just a thought for those candidates about to attend the Emirates selection program.
I recently attended this program and failed on the final day. Whilst it's not a major issue for me as I have a good job with good prospects I was nonetheless dissappointed having done so well in the sim, compass test, abstract reasoning and pschycological profiling (so i was told by HR staff), only to fail the final day.
On my return flt I went over in my mind what may have gone wrong and at one point glanced at my pilots flight bag, the one I carried around the Emirates career centre for the 3 days containing my various books and paperwork. It's one of those typical flt cases that we all have, old and battered, bits of leather hanging off and covered in stickers.
So even though I wore a dark suit, clean shirt, tie and polished shoes did I fail because of my scruffy looking flt bag?, after all you are being assessed in one way or another the whole time and those who got through had new looking smart attache type cases.
I may be completely off course here "they may have just not taken to me" but for those about attend the program it's worth bearing in mind, get yourself a nice new flt bag, you don't want to fail because of something stupid like an accessory.
Please don't e-mail me regarding the details of the program, all the info is on the internet and I'm not into spending hours at the computer.
Best of luck.

CB

I understand what you are saying, but 50% of applicants are failing the sim ride. If someone really wants the job it is wise to prepare. An hour of sim time to do the profile once beforehand could well mean the difference of being successful or not. Doesn't have to be a B777 or A310, but some practice of flying the profile and what you will say in the simulator are money well spent.


Typhoonpilot

The main focus of the SIM assessment is CRM and the way you manage the operation. The flying side is important but it is not as important as the CRM etc. They are assessing you as a Captain - not an F/O, they want to see you brief, manage and communicate very well. If you happen to drift off heading or altitude but correct it then this will not go against you at all.
You could fly the thing like Chuck Yeager having spent £1000's on prep SIM time but if you couldn't manage a pi*s up in a brewery then you will fail.
If you fly jets for a living, particularly a Boeing then any SIM prep time is not required - save your money.
They do chop the vast majority of guys on day one after the SIM and Compass Testing. It would be well worth brushing up on the old mental arithamatic and basic ATPL knowledge though!!
Good luck to all :ok:

Expensive in the UK I guess. Could easily get an hour in a 737 or older 757/767 sim for under $300 in the U.S.

Really, guys get lost trying to intercept a VOR radial; they get lost on downwind; they have to spend so much mental capacity to fly the airplane that they can't concentrate enough to do the CRM bits.

EK recruiting want the guys to succeed so a little bit of preparation would help to make the difference for many many applicants.


Typhoonpilot

Guy's getting lost on downwind; failing to intercept a radial; no capacity to talk...............Who the hell are we trying to hire, and from where!!!!!!!!!!!! I weep for the future.

Got to agree with dustyprops on this one. If your flying jets then the sim ride should'nt prove to demanding. It's day 2 and 3 that you need to prepare for i.e do you fit their profile.

I have heard through the grape vine that new recruits are getting a 5% pay rise on the contract they were given when they arrive for the first day of training????

Fools...
 

@ captbod
 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm p!ssing myself with laughter! Please tell me that you're joking right?!

Well let's see captbod, don't you agree that a possible future employer is not worthy of your services if they fail to look past your shoddy flight case and rather than focus on your flying and management qualities as a pilot? Well, if that was the case then it again proves that they are obviously not looking for pilots but for the typical pay-for-training button pushing rich kids with a brand new Rimowa attache cases looking for a newer and bigger type rating to brag about to their friends. Let them! Be happy that EK didn't take you. As a matter of fact , harsh as it might sound right now, see it as a badge of honour!

Bokkenrijder
As I said, it may or may not have been a contributary factor to getting chopped on the final day (Emirates policy not to give feedback unfortunately), however its worth bearing in mind for those yet to attend the program, you wouldn't want to get binned because of a lack of attention to detail.

PS. Glad I managed to cheer you up this time of the morning.

What's the deal
 

I don't understand the enthusiasm to work for emirates ? I would NEVER want to be the hired help for a bunch of arabs, I don't care how well they pay.

Its very easy to get carried away with the prospects of flying a shiny Emirates aircraft, but one thing that is very often overlooked, is where will you be in 10 years time.
Great, you may have a few thousand hours in command but where will that take you?
One aspect that is not always considered is your children's education.
Dubai is great when your kids are young, but will you want them to spend their whole education as an expat in an arab country?
Dont kid yourself and think that by that time Emirates will have basings or will make your life as a commuter easy. They never will.
You will be forced to make the decision either to split up the family or start looking for another job.
Where will that be? A contracting job in China? A great prospect to end your flying career!
All EK want is a bum on seat. They will flog you to the max with no regard for your long term health. Your contract will change many times.
I am constantly flying with a relatively new first officer who does nothing but bleat and whine about "if only they knew beforehand, they would never have joined"
Many f/o's cant wait to leave, some cant because they have got themselves in debt, others cant because there is nowhere to go.
The "good times" disappeared years ago.

Is anything postive or optimistic ever discussed on this forum? Ekslave....give recruitment a go...you'd make a killing!!

Very well put ekslave, finally some sense and a long(er) term vision!

But I guess the people who apply now (the low-cost 'I must get command on shiny medium jet' generation) don't want to hear it, just like they didn't want to hear anything that would burst their bubble when they joined the crappy low-cost outfits that they now so desperately want to leave. :rolleyes:

Catch 22, jumping from frying pan into the fire.... :ugh:

Airspeedintervention, I would rather work for the arabs than work for the yanks any day of the week. :D

Again its just the same individuals that keep on appearing trying to run Emirates down at any given opportunity :ugh:

I appreciate the fact that the grass may not be greener but that's not the point of this thread, surely enough whining now by the small minority of those that obviously didn't make the right decision to join Emirates in the first place! The vast majority, and many friends that I know speak positively about it. The great thing is that you can vote with your feet and leave whenever you want!

Bokkenrijder - not everybody has the luxury of choice when first entering this industry in terms of their employer. You comments are pretty irrational and possibly insulting!