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300 hours shy of the requirement... Feels so bad to be missing out on this.
I hope they reopen for the airbus next year. |
Originally Posted by Riskybis
(Post 10360001)
So when a skipper sees a 2 stripper they don’t have to panic :O |
Has anyone heard any rumours about how many pilots VS are actually looking to recruit over the next 12-18 months? 🤔 an educated guess will do.
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40 or so apparently. |
Cheers Rex. |
6 months rule
Does anybody know the basis of having to have flown the aircraft within the previous 6 months?
Wouldn't this be a bit irrelevant as the initial VA training would get the applicant current again? |
CAA thing I think. Seems a common rule. They would probably be required to give more sectors to someone who hasn’t operated a large aircraft in the last 6 months? |
Originally Posted by DDobinpilot
(Post 10381854)
CAA thing I think. Seems a common rule. They would probably be required to give more sectors to someone who hasn’t operated a large aircraft in the last 6 months? Think they must be short of crews. Friend of mine 4 years seniority has been refused Part Time working, nearly top of request list. Company won't divulge the list, present part timers OK, but no new ones for foreseeable future? Seems a good way to alienate your workforce. |
Originally Posted by DDobinpilot
(Post 10381854)
CAA thing I think. Seems a common rule. They would probably be required to give more sectors to someone who hasn’t operated a large aircraft in the last 6 months? What's stopping me hopping in the sim of my old Airbus type, doing an OPC? Not sure if this would satisfy their "flying" in the last 6 months rule . |
Originally Posted by cessnapete
(Post 10381873)
nearly top of request list..
That's how lists work. . . . |
Originally Posted by Akrapovic
(Post 10381890)
Surely when they get to the top of the list, they'll get the next part time position??
That's how lists work. . . . |
To be honest the 340 will be a decent fleet when the 350 arrives! I'm flying MFF and average about 3/4 trips per month.
Once the 350 is here people will most probably be single fleeted on the the 340 until it dies out, heard a rumour they will keep a couple to do the charters! So interesting flying! |
What are the opportunities for moving between fleets? |
Originally Posted by RexBanner
(Post 10382182)
What are the opportunities for moving between fleets? If you like the Caribbean and NY them the Bus is for you |
Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR
(Post 10381887)
Will the 40 include any Boeing rated people? I’m interested in the MAN base, any chance of recruitment directly into that base? Thank you for any info.
Thx |
I applied during the Boeing rated campaign in Oct, haven’t heard anything yet. Any info would be greatly appreciated. |
For those that have asked the chances of going straight to MAN are slim to zero. Everybody joins at LHR and on day one you put your name on the waiting list. The base is full of F/O’s so dead mans shoes. With the 330 operation scaled back from MAN for the winter, most crews are back at LHR but most will get back for the summer. |
And PS part time is not being discontinued. However with the entry of the 350 this year there is a requirement that to go on it early you need to be full time for a year, and then limited to 85% thereafter to fly both the 330/350. Naturally there are many on 75% who have politely declined to go to the new shiny jet ! |
Originally Posted by 4engines4longhaul
(Post 10382865)
For those that have asked the chances of going straight to MAN are slim to zero. Everybody joins at LHR and on day one you put your name on the waiting list. The base is full of F/O’s so dead mans shoes. With the 330 operation scaled back from MAN for the winter, most crews are back at LHR but most will get back for the summer. |
Originally Posted by cessnapete
(Post 10382123)
He's been told that Part Time is being discontinued so doesn't matter where you are on the list!.
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Out of interest is the aim to still retire all of Virgins 747 fleet by the end of this year? |
Think 2 years-ish and no more (or very little) recruitment onto it. All Boeing recruits apparently going 787 |
Any Yes/No yet?
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Originally Posted by MikeAlpha320
(Post 10389831)
Any Yes/No yet?
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Nothing yet... |
Are they still recruiting?
Nothing on their Website now.. |
I know 3 guys that have had PFOs. All very experienced airbus guys so not sure what they’re after. |
A possible purchase of Thomas cooks long haul !
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How viable is it to commute to LHR/LGW as flight deck given you won't be in every day? From a logistics/time and health point of view? Does anyone commute down up north for the trip and then go home after or is the thought horrifying after the long sector back from LH destination xyz?
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Originally Posted by Daily Dalaman Dave
(Post 10404569)
I know 3 guys that have had PFOs. All very experienced airbus guys so not sure what they’re after. An internal sponsor is key from what I hear. |
Originally Posted by tech log
(Post 10496015)
How viable is it to commute to LHR/LGW as flight deck given you won't be in every day? From a logistics/time and health point of view? Does anyone commute down up north for the trip and then go home after or is the thought horrifying after the long sector back from LH destination xyz?
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Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
(Post 10496495)
Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
Plenty to do in the cruise. You are travelling much longer distances with remote alternates, so keeping on top of where is suitable, ETPs and how you would fly the approach in the conditions does take some time. You will be flying a lot of older people to cruises (not a stereotype, it’s a fact) who can get very ill very quickly. You also get rest periods to chill away from the flight deck or sleep. Or just watch the IFE. Most of my time in the seat is spent chewing the fat with the bloke in the other seat, getting down route tips or seeing where to invest the pension fund, thinking what will catch me out on the approach at the far end, where I want to hold, how much fuel I’m willing to hold down to, diversion routing, mentally rehearsing go-around. There is plenty to do, if you aren’t gashing it. |
Depends which airline as to “ life down route “. There are plenty that aren’t party central like virgin. Personally I don’t do longhaul for the life downroute, that would be a bit sad as 90% of people are colleagues not friends ( found that out the hard way ) but increasing my lifestyle at home. |
My long haul lifestyle at home is 100 times better than it ever was on short haul. Very little disruption, I’m home more than I’m away. Granted I’m away more nights but I’ve never crawled in to bed at 3am (at least not because of work) and generally it’s my kids that wake me up, not my alarm. The lifestyle is better for me (it really is a very personal thing).
Yes i I do miss out on some plays/ceremonies/swimming lessons/life events. But I’d have done that on shorthaul. I’m the only dad consistently at the school gates and get to enjoy life off the aircraft more than I ever did when I was at short haul. But i also came to the realisation when when I switched from short to long that this is just a job. No more no less. It lets me live my life for me and my family in this industry I. The way I want. And I can’t remember the last time I had a CTOT. |
Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
(Post 10496495)
Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
Long haul is a completely different job to short haul. And in my opinion, a much better job. Not all trips are sociable, so make sure you enjoy your own company. |
Originally Posted by Meester proach
(Post 10496927)
Depends which airline as to “ life down route “. There are plenty that aren’t party central like virgin. Personally I don’t do longhaul for the life downroute, that would be a bit sad as 90% of people are colleagues not friends ( found that out the hard way ) but increasing my lifestyle at home. |
Some chaps/chapesses are colleagues. But some become friends. Ive already paired up on a few extra trips with guys/girls ive had a cracking time operating/socializing with. Its each to your own I suppose, but if 60% of your time is away with colleagues, I want to make that experience for others and myself as enjoyable and memorable as possible. I suppose I see that as part of my "job".
And I don't work for VS! |
Originally Posted by Meester proach
(Post 10496927)
Depends which airline as to “ life down route “. There are plenty that aren’t party central like virgin. Personally I don’t do longhaul for the life downroute, that would be a bit sad as 90% of people are colleagues not friends ( found that out the hard way ) but increasing my lifestyle at home. A friend of mine, he is with VS on the Airbus, sometimes does 5 Atlantic crossings, mostly night-stops a month. Occasionally with a Sim detail thrown in. ( if he’s lucky gets a Lagos, but hasn’t been to the Caribbean for a year or so) Lots of last minute roster changes, some after check in at LHr., with subsequent family disruption. He certainly is not party central, continually knackered!! |
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