sorry nuageblanc I forgot the fantastic level of english you guys have in France.. you are right, I should explain with different words, but it would be wasting time..enjoy your wonderful airline,life,nightstops,trips etc.much better than anyone else's.

Clara,

Are you flying for an airline at the moment, or ever have done?

My suspicion is "no", and give it a few years and you will be the first to gripe about those new entrants who appear to be raping the terms and conditions of your beloved job, and will swear blind that it wasn't like that in your day!

Just remember....

Your general attitude is atrocious, and the fact you refer to Easy as "we" and sign off as Easy Clara, does your arrogance know no bounds???? Apparently not...

Your knowledge of the general industry is obviously limited re. the security issue, but more the problem, your ideas of what makes pilots tick is non-existent.

I'm guessing you have paid for a rating, and have no other experience in TPs, night freight, air taxi, apprenticeships generally????

The truth will find you out is a wonderful saying......

What a pleasure you will be....:ugh::ugh::ugh:

If "it" really is a "she", is it possible for a woman to be a w@nker ? or is there another derogatory term that I should be familiar with, & therefore able to apply to the opposite sex ? :ugh: :yuk:

Dear all,

Please can anyone tell me how to report FLYING CLARA?? It would seem I hit a nerve with my last post and in return I recieved a very offensive private email which I would like a moderator to view. My thanks in advance.

Rosco just private message a mod and explain, I'm pretty sure they can access your inbox if needs be. I'd also advocate the use of the ignore function with Flying Muppet. He/She/It is a waste of space.

Cmon-Pullup

I agree that a lot of people will jump ship from Easy, when they can, exactly the same happened at Ryanair a few years ago, they were bleeding pilots main artery style, until they realised that they had to at least give them a fair crack at base choice, and also stabilise the roster situation. Arguably the situation there now is the minimum basic requirement to keep people, I won't say happy, but to keep people or rather to lose a lot fewer than previous figures.

Management, in any company, need to realise that the imposition of change in terms and working conditions needs to be tackled with kid gloves. Negotiation and agreement is the only way, unless you don't care if you replace your whole workforce, or a substantial, formerly valuable, part. Some changes are just not worth the cost saving because of the damage to the way people will work for you due to their changing attitude towards management and the workplace. I think that this damage is occurring now at Easy, from what I read here, and from those I know who work there.

Question is, when will they be able to move on, how much will it cost the company - I am guessing they have projected figures for the financial implication, but it is simply not possible to guess how the company will change as a result of changing attitudes.

I think one thing is certain: there will not be a problem replacing those who leave, however you are right in that there is a financial cost in this, and a hidden cost also. Perhaps interestingly, Easy will possibly become more like Ryanair, with far fewer career Easyjet pilots than before, more and more might join, serve their two years or whatever is their goal, and move on. I hope management have accounted for all of that.

For myself, I would still, one day, like to work for Easy, but it is now more an opportunity to progress temporarily, rather than to settle there long term. That way I can let the current management style wash over me and not be too concerned about it. Frankly I can think of no other defence to being valued how Easy appear to be valuing staff currently.

Simple solution here

Join BALPA

Get your CC to tell Management what you’re not happy with and give them 30 days to come back with a solution.

If you’re still not happy, ballot for industrial action.

You then watch Management **** themselves and when the dust settles, watch the re shuffle of Managers.

BALPA BALPA BALPA BALPA BALPA

Clara, fancy dinner sometime. Your funny

Clara, you really are a tosser and indeed a shining example of why myself and many other professional pilots rarely use this site anymore.

Unbelievable. Get back to Flight Sim on your PC. Thank goodness I will never have to share a flight deck with you.

Rant over :*

EGCC,
I think you are absolutely right and I think that at some point we will all end up in a ballot. In my base this is what the workforce is ready to do. BALPA is not happy and in the last newsletter released say it clearly.

Our professionalism is not up for sale...:=

Regarding the Crew Food I would like to encourage anyone to fill out a fatigue report if he/she thinks food and water ( only 1 liter of water for 5 hours of flight duty) is not enough and report it to the CAA as well. There is a matter of safety here!

Please be united! and be READY!

Regarding Clara: she is not even a professional pilot. let her talk and do not reply. I doubt she'll be never ever seated on an airline jet, or maybe yes...but having paid a ticket...:hmm:
thanks
zz

Yes you're right. I got irritated then and felt unable to be quiet any longer!

And we must all be united on all issues. But don't you think that all this stuff may be better discussed on the private forum rather than airing dirty linen in public? (even journos can read this!). Please don't think I'm criticising, merely a comment or open question really.

Does easyjet hire low hours pilots. I have a jar25 type rating and about 300 hours total. I would love to fly an easyjet airbus a319.
Do I have to apply directly with easyjet or ctc or atp?
Many thanks for your help.
PS: I don't mind if there is no food/drinks on board. I have been working in a bank where they don´t provide you with any food/drinks, so I am used to it. :cool:

John.

Flying Clara is a Troll either from, or trying to get into Hangar 89. Ignore it.

Balpa has lost lots of members (and I am one of those) because they are just USELESS. The only thing they want is to suck you 500 pounds a year on your bank account for doing nothing. :yuk:

Wind check - well they'll definately do nothing for you now you're not a member!

Seriously though, please put your past experiences and expectations aside and consider joining again. Please. We need all the members we can get now. These are dark times. If after a few months and hopefully all this has calmed down a little then leave again.

But please consider re-joining.

Why the slating of Clara?

She seems passionate about the company she works for and is adopting the "don't give me problems; give me solutions" approach.

I like her style. I certainly would not be complaining - there are 1000s of low hr cadets out there ready to fill in the shoes of those dissatisfied.

Because she is a total muppet, BSmuppet. She has no idea what she is talking about and has the square root of :mad: all experience in the job, yet preaches to those who have worked for the company and been in this business for years, telling them they should be grateful that easyjet see fit to employ them. At best naieve, at worst completely ego-centric and unable to comprehend anything beyond her own nose.

She'll make a great manager.

BSMUPPET

CLARA does not and will never fly for Easyjet , she/he is a TROLL , ignore her/him.

Those of us in BALPA in Easy are defending our Terms and Conditions and those of the 1000's who would like in the future to fill our shoes.

Your attitude and those 1000's like you, only serve to drive pay & conditions at Easy (and all other airlines) further into an ever increasing downward spiral, fuelled by your blind ambition to sit in a shiny jet and the acceptance of the lowering terms and conditions in order to do so.

Please look at the wider bigger picture.

At the moment you are an Airline Managers wet dream.

This message is hidden because BSmuppet is on your ignore list.

This message is hidden because Flying_Clara is on your ignore list.

Ah, sigh, that's better. Now back to the thread.

I'm pretty sure that in the past Clara has claimed to have been one of the ATP pay to fly gals/guys from last summer. If that's the case then she/he is probably returning for another 6 months this year.

Nobody from the ATP pay as you go scheme was ever offered employment from Easyjet.

The temps or "flexicrew" FO's for this summer all come from the various CTC schemes one of which is also confusingly called ATP :confused:

Absolutely priceless!

Watching you lot get wound up by a phantom internet poster (FlyingClara). Do carry on though, it’s far more entertaining than the rest of the same old drivel being discussed here :zzz:

I have it on very good authority that some of the ATP pay to fly people will return this summer. It remains to be seen whether the company will charge them £7.50 for speedy boarding each time they get on after a walkround. I vote Clara makes tea in the lgw crewroom every morning. (you will need to bring the teabags clara)

Guys, this latest communication from the company is only pushing us in one direction and that is a ballot on industrial action. At the start of the summer schedule the management has lost all goodwill from their pilots. Fatigue reports will be through the roof. Get those rosters off to the FRMS team and play hardball with crewing. To quote the company, these measures 'simplify' our hotel facilities, so let us simplify our working lives, it is more simple to...
-not do discretion
-carry extra fuel
-call in fatigued after a night at the ibis.


We have fought hard to get what conditions we have, it is time again to stick together and ensure the company are under no illusions as to where this attitude will take them.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!

rant over

I just removed FC from my ignore list and had a great laugh reading this thread... he/she/it is a great wind-up merchant, and I can't believe how many people get sucked in.

If you're really that bothered check out he/she/it's previous posts dating back to Feb07 when he/she/it claimed to have been virgin cabin crew for 5 months asking about training at Airmed Valencia but not being able to speak Spanish. Then there's the parents having a house in Murcia, then there's the initial Class 1 medical in Jan08 in Madrid, converting the Spanish licence to a UK one. That's when the inquiries about various companies begins: netjets, ryanair, air nostrum, Air europa, Vueling (in basic Spanish) swiftair, the ATP scheme and then Easyjet, and then the windups begin.

So..... I doubt it's an Easy management windup (much too intricate and would require planning unless there's a bonus in it!:ugh:), more likely a failed and very bitter CTC/ATP cadet if he/she/it got that far.
But in the unlikely event he/she/it does make it to Easy then it shouldn't take too long to find him/her/it out.
Word will get around and then soon he/she/it will become every skippers "beatch" for the day.

Looking forward to "working" with you Flying Clara! ;) Feel free to PM me.

Flying Clara,

I have read this thread with interest and amusement.

I have not checked smellster's remarks but it seems that you are not what you say you are due to your history of posts.

So a lot of people are understandably annoyed with you. As has been pointed out, pilots took a pay cut inorder to save certain "perks" if you can call it that. Also it isn't very motivating for them to hear that their water is being taken away yet management still get payrises and get as much water as they need from the water cooler in the office!!!!

Clara,

I must apologise earlier for jumping on the bandwagon and thinking you were not "real". Going by your past posts, then perhaps you are a pilot joining in the summer.

But I'm a little surprised at how vocal you are being, especially if you are using your real name - Clara. There can't be too many Clara's joing in the summer who were ex Virgin CC.

Just calm down. I have heard many sob stories about the plight of pilots these days. And you will feel the same after the novelty of that shiny jet has worn off. Would you still agree with management if they stopped maternity pay - ridiculous as it sounds.

Just be careful with what you say. This is a small world so hopefully Clara is a "stage" name. But also saying your bf is a training Captain is probably not a good thing to boast about during your rants.

Clara I would suggest that you take your argument to the BALPA forum but judging by your comments I doubt you are a member, so why not prove you are now a company pilot and make your posts in the Easyjet company forum here on PPrune. As you say you are a company pilot now so gaining access wont be a problem for you.

smellster - care to copy and paste the pm. I'd love to read it. Or send it to my PM. I could do with a laugh.

Well Clara it looks like it might be an avaliable position at the top of Flight ops soon. You seem to to fit the profile, Big mouth and extreme ability to piss people off and no clue what is going on. If i were you i would send my c.v to Andy H. a.s.a.p:}

I imagine 'Clara' is a stage name, possible nicked from pigeon street, maybe she aspires to flying long distance? or maybe she goes all the way?!!


good luck to the EZ lot, water (and tea) is damned near essential when stuck in a cockpit all day. If you aim for the bottom line, you might end up six foot under...

Our company? You don't work for easyJet (try and get the casing right for starters). You've shagged and paid your way to a RHS for this summer. Not really the same thing.

P

As an Ezy trainer FC I'm not aware that anyone from the CTC wings programme has completed their Line Training. Certainly not to complete it and then hang around waiting for a contract. You can smell the BS from here.

puma230,

perhaps her bf has got her through the back door.

What.....she's been taken via the back door! Just the thought makes ya eyes water :eek:

I couldn't resist. :p Sorry for lowering the tone fellow ppruners.

Its a habit of mine.

Clara,

give it a rest hun

However good luck and congratulations for getting a job even now.

Enough with the EasyClara. It makes me cringe.

xxxeasyHighheeled-FA :yuk:

Clara,

Good advice from HHFA...please give it a rest. You don't bother me, as I was only passing through this thread but, my word, you are very good at winding people up! Sadly, some of those people will soon be your colleauges and it does not do you any favours to be a marked person...been there, done that.

I am sure you do not aim to be so contraversial on purpose but it is clear that you are strong-willed and quite opinionated. This is not such a bad thing....but please ask yourself these 3 questions:

"What if I'm wrong?"
"How do other people perceive me?"
"Could I make my point in a less confrontational way?"

With your obvious lack of flying experience, might I suggest that if you want to progress in EZY, or anywhere else for that matter, you learn a little bit of humble pie, or at least the ability to bite your tongue until you are settled in?

Some of the points you make are valid (eg I agree that management will want to squeeze every budget and reducing the coffe/tea does save some money....but not a lot! Unfortunately, it will reduce morale - but that's management for you!) However, unless you learn to modify your behaviour, you will not get very far in the airlines; the choice is yours.

A word from the wise

flipster

(retired angry young man)

ps On a jovial note, did you fall asleep during the human-factors and behavioural-markers part of the CRM course? Its not uncommon, you know, I know some trainers and management pilots who did too - maybe you could become like them?

"Easyjet is in serious financial troubles for the months to come, we are low cost hence we have to agree that cutting superficial cost is the key of the success."

Don't think there is a cost as superficial as Flying Clara

I was almost about to add Clara to my ignore list along with little white cloudy boy, but actually she/he/it makes me laugh all things considered.

Don't bother trying to offer her advice, if she/he/it really is joining us for the summer, let her climb into a flight deck with that attitude, the results will be spectacular!

I hope I get her/him/it as my FO one day, boy am I gonna have fun, and hey, if I was TC then I might even get more than I bargained for so that he/she/it might pass the next OPC:}

Honestly guys those of us that have been around should just let her/him/it run off that cliff kicking and screaming all the way to the bottom, don't waste your effort, but do laugh at her/his/its utter utter foolishness, you and I both know it will be her undoing!

Clara, you carry on, your providing a great service on here, please don't stop. I cant wait for your next trick ( Bet the TC says that too ! )

Clara before talking please ensure that your brain is on ......and please use condom for the future no more peoples like you:8:8:8

and for info did you know where you can put the 2stripes :mad::mad::mad::mad: