As an ex easy 737 TRE/TRI I can say that NSF and TRon are spot on.It is easy to imagine that one can seamlessly transition from the LHS of a t/prop to a jet but the reality is different unfortunately.
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Turbo prop or jet... no...ctc
in the last pmail or the F... mail ......
Monday 02nd March saw the arrival of the first CTC Aviation Flexi-crew contract pilots to join easyJet. A total of 60 cadet pilots will join easyJet this summer between 02nd March and the end of April. All cadet pilots will have completed type rating training at CTC Aviation and will then join us for line training and line flying. These pilots will be based throughout the UK, operate as First Officers on the Airbus and will fly under contract to us until the end of the summer months. A total of 11 Boeing pilots started earlier this year in January and will also fly for the majority of our peak summer season. In May we will also welcome back 12 of last year’s CTC wings and ATP cadets for a Summer season under contract also through the CTC Flexi-crew scheme. More about them though closer to their arrival. We have been working with CTC Aviation for a number of years and have previously accepted cadets from CTC Aviation through their Wings cadet programme or ATP scheme. The Flexi-crew scheme has replaced these pilot entry schemes and we are pleased to be working with CTC Aviation who have introduced this scheme to assist us in managing our seasonality. Managing.....is it a word at easyjet?????????? so all the reflexion regarding turbopros or jet is dead........ ctc the solution:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: and doesn t matter if it s an internal information :mad::mad::mad: |
pay peanuts, get monkeys...:ok:
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Why don't you jetjocks with your vectored ILS approaches to 2600m runways take a month off and jumpseat with Wideroe going into some godforsaken corner of northern Norway with the winds howling down the mountains on an NDB approach to land on a 800m runway lodged in some fjord. Then you can go back to your airbus, switch on the a/p, grab your coffee and keep kidding yourselves that you're better pilots. :ok:
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God save us from the drivel written behind the cloak of anonymity here.Airbuses/737s also fly to windy Scandinavian destinations;the challenges are exponentially worse.Low cost pilots are not the solution either.Flying Clara:I spent 6 years with easy in the training role and I never met anyone like you as f/o or s/o-you are either a wind-up merchant or just a moron.Psychological agendae abound;bigger/faster is not better but the potential for cock up is greater.Deaf ears I suppose.Out.
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737s also fly to windy Scandinavian destinations;the challenges are exponentially worse. I must be some kind of super-pilot :p |
You Orange boys and girls should really lghten up a bit! Clara has you seething like rabid dogs!
The real problem is the diminishing cachet of the airline pilot. With flexi crew it is next stage in the downward spiral of t and c's The only thing that will stop it is a crash(Turkish?) or legislation. Do easy customers know they are being driven by a trainee. Whatever anybody says there is an increased risk in the first 500 hours until you gain a lot of spare capacity. When pilots are employed the risk is minimised as you only have limited numbers, these lot will leave to be replaced by fresh money. A tv documentry is needed to highlight the matter I think bearing in mind the recent mechanical failures of aircraft. Really the general pilot body doesn't have the balls to bring it to a halt in todays economic climate. Hopefully the lack of credit will stem the flow though. D and F :8 |
Dear flying clara ..easy will change the livery on all planes just for you...
come on let's fUC. maybe the only time for you dear clara regarding you brain:E:E:E:E:E:E:E poor girl...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: |
What's the current situation at easyJet? I 've heard they are still calling people for interviews, but on the other hand as far as I know from what we can read on pprune is that there are still a few pilots waiting in the pool because of some priority given to cheap wannabes from CTC or ATP willing to work for a 6 months contract with a poor salary, is that right? :confused:
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Flying Clara
Ed Boy
Are you Flying Clara of ATP fame? seems you post on the same threads that all :E |
On that note Ed Boy is not me and Flying Clara has nothing to do with ATP.
I'm sure only a select few will know what I'm talking about. |
Homer
On the approach. And take note here. If I get to FL150, and I'm sat 10nm behind a jet. I WILL have to slow down so as not to catch the jet up. its very frustrating. ATC will pop us behind on the theory that there faster. But there not. Especially below FL100. |
Which I think reminds me of the original reason why someone suggested there were some pompous posts here.
Anyway, back to Easy. Educated guesses on when, if ever, they will be recruiting again in numbers? Closest answer wins...a new jet job (and the "jet energy" to go with it)? |
I think the recruitment is very fluid at easy. They have realised the pairings optimiser isnt going to produce the miracle solutions they had hoped for.
They are looking around for contract pilots and will have a big fight on their hands if they even find any; BALPA is not impressed by their deception or their plans. So watch this space for a last minute rush! |
Anyone on the inside heard any rumours regarding TRSS recently? Many thanks.
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I think it is pretty clear we will not see Trss happening for the foreseeable future, not while there are people willing to take 6 month contracts and then get binned! NEXT................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ugh::ugh:
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Yeah that's pretty much my take on it, unfortunately. However I'm just curious as to any rumours from within, more in blind optimism than hope I must admit. :)
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The only repeating rumour I am hearing is that we are about to have a very caotic summer.
We will be short, and the opposition are trying to be crafty in coming up with ways that plug the gaps and atthe same time further erode our T's and C's. I see from this weeks flight that transavia have an opening for a COO in their new Danish operation, anyone think they'd have him back ? I'd take a pay cut to fund his departure expenses:yuk: |
Easyjet really take the biscuit! and the tea and coffee! :(
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And from inside too....
"Whilst water will continue to be provided, tea and coffee will be removed. However, milk and cups will be provided should crew wish to bring their own tea and coffee. This change to drinks pack alone provides a saving of £400 000." close to be like ryanair:{:{:{:{:{ |
Dear Jean- Philippe 68,
You seem to have now changed your mind...in the right way ! A few months ago you did not agree with me to the fact that Low cost are **** place to work, and the only thing they can do is to downgrade the conditions and salary of our profession, and make air transport worse and worse to the PAX. I told you, I told you, you and your friends, you have to get out of that ******* **** (ryanair, easyjet, wizzair, vueling, skyeurope...) , and please listen to me for god sake, GO TO MAIN AIRLINES like BA, AF-KLM, things like that, you will immediatly stop to complain as your frustration will disapear. Bonne Chance. Guillaume (AF) :ok: |
ahahahaaha i can agree with you for some things..but I really wish that getting rid of peoples frustrations was as easy as joining a flag carrier! I have heard sooooo many (sometimes absurd) complaints from major carriers pilots.
The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!). I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you! ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffe:} ! |
ahahahaaha i can agree with you for some things..but I really wish that getting rid of peoples frustrations was as easy as joining a flag carrier! I have heard sooooo many (sometimes absurd) complaints from major carriers pilots. The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!). I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you! ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffehttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/badteeth.gif ! |
Anybody objecting when I call nuageblanc a pompous git? :}
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...just French :8
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"Whilst water will continue to be provided, tea and coffee will be removed. However, milk and cups will be provided should crew wish to bring their own tea and coffee. This change to drinks pack alone provides a saving of £400 000." |
But he has a point. "Low cost" really means "low overheads". Pilots are overheads.
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If pilots are overheads and we need to lower the overheads, then I might just have a plan.
Shorter pilots! ta da! |
Why don't you jetjocks with your vectored ILS approaches to 2600m runways take a month off and jumpseat with Wideroe going into some godforsaken corner of northern Norway with the winds howling down the mountains on an NDB approach to land on a 800m runway lodged in some fjord. Then you can go back to your airbus, switch on the a/p, grab your coffee and keep kidding yourselves that you're better pilots. |
is this tea and coffee thing for real. I m always embarrassed when i have to tell friends we ask for 'hot waters'....but thought EasyJet was an example of what working for RYR should be like....but perhaps not. Even with union backing ...
This is depressing..are any carriers actually suitable for long terms careers, where will we be in 20 years time...... 'where re doomed' |
Tosh.....Flying Clara your initials aren't TM are they? Sounds like you've swallowed the Ezy guide to bad management!
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FC,
Your latest post shows how ignorant you are - how do you suggest we get these hazardous liquids past security? |
How are we supposed to get those through security?
Have you ever actually worked for an airline? Ten quid says no. |
Stop biting Guys and gals!! FC is a wynd up merchant! We do not see it on the private page because it is not an employee.....simpoles!!!:)
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Flying Clara I'm assuming for your sake that you don't work for an airline (and lets hope if you do it's not easyjet).
I agree you can bring water, coke cola, orange juice on board the aircraft if you buy them airside or if they're brought through security empty. Ryanair has it's crew room airside and they are able to fill their containers up from water machines available to them. Unfortunately easyJet does not have crew rooms airside so this is not possible, also no water machines, so a little difficult to do this. Stop biting Guys and gals!! FC is a wynd up merchant! We do not see it on the private page because it is not an employee.....simpoles!!! |
Clara what on earth are you on about. At Gatwick where I work, you are certainly not allowed to bring any liquids through security (regardless of ID and Uniform). There is neither the opportunity nor the time to buy liquids airside having passed through security, so exactly how are you supposed to take any drinks with you?
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Flying Clara
In the UK you can still only bring liquids through security in 100ml containers. Not a practical option for bringing drinks to work with you. Airport staff and flight crew are NOT exempt from these rules... The only option is to buy overpriced drinks from an airside shop or vending machine - that's assuming you have time to queue up with the passengers or can find a machine that actually works when you put your £1.60 in, (yes it's £1.60 for a bottle of coke!) |
Flying_Clara you really talk a load of sh*t, you know nothing about this business
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I work for a small bottom feeder cargo airline. We have no liquids available on board, paid for or otherwise. If we're organised we load up with drinks when outside of the UK, but generally we're not, and the aircraft is devoid of coke! It IS a problem. We operate in a dry (well drier than on the ground) atmosphere, and it's thirsty work. I used to envy bigger airlines like Easy with their coffee perks (no pun).
Although this sounds like a small issue, when you work day in, day out, and have to buy drinks airside, it does become expensive. Heaven only knows when things will pick up in this industry, but, if in the future it did ever happen to boil down to (okay, pun intended) a job offer with a company who look after you on the flight deck, compared to Easy who now seem to be driving towards you incurring more and more high costs whilst at work (often, no doubt, having to buy from Easy themselves to top up your water allowance), I know where I'd be inclined. After all, it's the small things which often display how you'll be valued as an employee in the long run. Regrettably I cannot forsee myself ever being in such a situation of choice. For now.... |
Clara, please, stop it. Are you in easyJet already?
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