AAI In trouble
 

You all must have seen the email from airborne today, it seems that AAI is having cashflow trouble and as usual they will pay the contractors last.

AAI In trouble
 

AAI has not paid the contractors salaries today as they claim they are waiting for one of there customers to pay. cashflow is usually the first sign of trouble.

I am sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope that this is just temporary and the usual SVA late payment. Keeping my fingers crossed and with best wishes.

Everything in AAI is temporary. I´ll bet there will be an email in your inbox later today or tomorrow stating that contractors with fees under 4.000 will be paid first. After all money for the football team and the christmas party must have priority. Heard people are refusing to fly untill paid.

Late Payment of Invoices
 

...the miracles of miracles remains that AAI is still in business at all!!! There were "cashflow" problems, even in the cargo go-go years (2003-2007).

Maybe the company is saving up to help pay back the $5bn dollars that "the Rock" owe to the Dutch & UK Govt's for the failure of Icesave etc....just a thought....

but on a serious note, I hope you all get paid soonest....otherwise "down tools" is my advice...

footballteam ? What footballteam ? Did I miss anything ?

411A and Earl 2 grumpy ex emplyees.
 

411A you were fired. You left the 1011 at a station where there was no maintenance with the APU running and the fuel pump burned over due to fuel starvation. THE AIRPLANE COULD HAVE BURNT DOWN. We all know you dont like AAI. You dont have to. If you want to write something then at least stick to the truth.

Earl you claim to be an expert. Whenever something happens at AAI its only speculations. I remember a cetrain accident in SHJ where you started the first day on this forum. Dont you owe to your fellow crewmembers at least showing the professionalism to wait at least for the preliminary report instead of what you wrote? You kept leaving and coming back until they had enough and say no more. Ive heard from your friends that you hate it where you are. This is your own fault. Why are U playing the victim here?

Football Team
 

MaxBlow

The only football team I know of that is remotely connected with "The Rock" is West Ham Utd in UK, but I hear that the fish head owner was a forced seller recently when he amassed debts of $300m.....yikes!!!

Hell will freeze over before that happens. :mad:

Stll no pay
 

Still no money in the bank!! More excuses from them..........
Maybe someone who reads this will have a few answers. If we are all contractors and as such our contract is with Airborne, surely they are responsible for paying us regardless directly. Nowhere in my contract with Airborne does it say my pay transfer is directly related to Airborne being paid by AAI. If I have done the work and submitted my 'work invoice' to Airborne then the onus is on them to pay me as agreed. If they do not have enough money in the Bank to pay people, then surely they are insolvent? Being insolvent and continuing to trade is fraudulent, isn't it? especially if they continue to offer contracts to new people during such times? Regardless if they try to hide behind an address in Gurnsey but continue to trade from offices on the UK mainland.
Anyone have any constructive ideas about this?????

Actually, unless this has changed of late, all my contracts with ACE, Airborne had that clause regarding customer airline's failure to pay. I've seen similar with drafts elsewhere as well. No pay from customer no pay to the contractor.

My Daddy once told me:

"Son, if your boss can't pay you this month's wages, he's got :mad: all chance of paying you double next month!"

Unless you like working for ziltch, I would seriously consider alternative employment!

Whiskery

"Unless you like working for ziltch, I would seriously consider alternative employment!"

Well, the AAI cheerleaders are starting to change their tune!!

Where you gonna go, with recent experience on an obsolete type? Even worse with guys operating on a validation I would have thought. Don't give me that "wide body time" c:mad:p either. Fly the flight deck and the rest will follow.

AAI are getting what they have deserved.

Fine, then fly for no pay - it ain't going to bother AAI! :rolleyes:

What you have omitted, Freightops, with your nonsensical diatribe, is that I was TOLD to leave the APU operating, by the Gatwick maintenance malcontents, who then cancelled their travel to the airplane...and forget all about the APU.
This would be in keeping, of course, with the AAI lack of maintenance oversight, inability of using a DAR at MZJ to properly certify spares, then installing these illegal spares on line aircraft.
I know the folks that were at MZJ, and have all the details.
AAI, still being run by malcontent locals, will never change...and I expect will slowly fade away.
Good riddance, I say.

411A Tell the truth.
 

First of all you left the airplane in STN where we had no maintenance personel. Second you knew that the airplane would be parked for consirerable time there. Third you as a captain should not leave the airplane unatended with the APU running.

Dont forget that you also tried with your friend the colonel to get AAI to do business with you in MZJ. AAI refused. Then your friend threatened AAI that they would never be able to take aircrafts out of there.

AAI has been a very forgiving company. Many people left and were welcome back.

Is this how you are going to spend your early retirement trying to tear down AAI with homemade version of lies?

God help us all.

Why dont you enjoy your retirement attending to your cats?

I have seen lots of comments from you and replies. It seems that people are getting a bit tired of you a long time ago. You just dont want to see it.

Do everyone a fabour 411A. or RW. Take a vacation or something.

Love is in the air...

Is it ever.:ok:
AAI lost their Britannia contract (two aircraft) due to their grounding by the UKCAA, and it went to Aer Turas...paid better, too....especially for yours truly.
Thanks, AAI!
All the relevant details were sent to the UKCAA (including the bit about stiffing the DAR at MZJ that was eventually hired to certificate spares...then (no surprise), not paid.
What goes around comes around, and AAI will (has already) suffer the consequences...including hiring Jerry Springer to 'try' to promise folks...then back away.
Sadly, AAI is but a shell of its former self...now up the creek without a paddle.
Even the 'Prince of Darkness' called me up at 4am some time ago, asking for a...'position for our Flight Engineers'...what he really meant to say was...'hey, I'm out of a job, let me in.'
Fat chance that will happen.
Ha!
Ugandan (Malta passport) nationals not accepted here....ever.

Yup, love in the air, all around....!:}

Again you have no idea what you are talking about.
 

First of all we did not have a contract during those years with Britannia.
We did a occasional flight for them when they had AOGs.

We had a contract with Caledonian and Monarch. AAI did not lose any contract during this because the CAA found nothing wrong.
Why dont you accept the facts?

Shortly afterwards we signed a contract with Lufthansa, Cargolux, Virgin Atlantic, Malasyan, Saudia, Garuda.

We had a contract with Britannia in the early 80s on a B737.

The prince of Darkness is already reaching retirement age and cannot fly as a captain after 65. If he wants to be a flight engineer good for him.

AAI is already moving from the Classic to the -400s so they dont take on any more engineers.

Why dont you stick to things you know about silly old man:ok::D

Of course not, and they have failed totally.
AAI will die a slow death...goodbye, and good riddance.
SVA is done for them, not much else is left.
The codheads will have to suffer...ahhh, poor babies.:{:{
Their currency is in the tank, inflation rampent, economy in the toilet...the end of the road is...soon to arrive.
Couldn't be more pleased!