I am surprised more XL drivers are not moving on to other faster-growing operators like Ryanair, Easy or other IT operators that are hiring like Monarch. Why stay at XL if there is so much uncertainty and potential for crew unrest????? What are some good reasons to stay and put up with this? can understand why senior people would not want to forfeit their numbers and relative pay but the junior people should reconsider - no?

And what's all this about a number of 73s going to Thailand for the winter?

Just heard on the vine that a decision will be made next week regarding our preferences which will no doubt affect ALL our futures...:D
Lets hope we are lucky enough to get what we bid for ...... GOOD LUCK Guys and Gals.

good luck you will bl##dy well need it. I just heard over the past few days that the selection to stay on your type will be done by. BASE,SIMS,SICK,AND TIME WITH THE COMPANY. for what thats worth. so if your MAN based you have had it, they recon may be 4 cpt/fo up there the rest have to move for what!!!!! no chance on the 330, and at your own cost, oh and I bet if you have a 737 rating you know exactly where you will be going. how ever if you have just finished your line training on the 767, I would not be surprised if you dont get sent down the road you will be doing longhaul and earning loads over the winter while the other 767 cpt/fo's get stuffed on the 737,so lets see how senority works at this point in time, after all the other guys who had been here for years got shafted, so may be take a year out and DONT BE DAFT ENOUGH TO BELIVE YOU WILL COME BACK ON THE 330 if you do take a year off. there is only 1 pilot who will get the 330 as a dead cert and we all know his name. still we can all do multi sector short haul soon just like ryanair and easy, oh but for less money. hmmmm. well guys I do hope it go's well for all us on the shrinking fleets and we dont get shafted but just in case im of to by some KY JELLY to help ease the process.:mad:

Mate, can I suggest you take a more relaxed attitude (like most of us have adjusted ourselves to take) and "ride out the storm". We're all in the same boat so lets just wait and see what happens. At the end of the day, what other option is there?

Good post, that's what happened with the guys at Manx/Ba CitiExpress/BA Connect. Loads of posts from scare mongerers, and nothing could be done about the changes. Now FlyBe have taken over, stability is beginning to return and lifestyles returning to normal. If you can not alter a situation, there is no point getting stressed about it!

Does anyone have T&Cs as CPT 767 with XL UK?
What's up with the airline?
Seems that French XL is making money with the 330's and that management has been rewarded for his good work down there.
Nevertheless I have eared that French pilots want more recognition and especially more money and better T&Cs.
Does anybody think it's time to share the lead with the Frenchies overhere?
That's only for information as some good friends from the inside are still trying to think there is a future for this "Airline" in cruel aviation world...
:}
At least for the leverager's in charge of their own money or should I say the money of the fellow employees.:ugh:
What was the real personnal fortune of your chairman PW when he get the business for his own?
All the best to you in any cases.

Any news from XL these days?:oh:

Believe that 1 x XLF A330 will operate ex MAN this Summer . This will be crewed by XLF together with the first batch of XL's own A330 pilots.

First 2 "G-" A330's to be delievered Nov & Dec 2008.

Then 2 more Mar & Apr 2009

May the Farce be with you

Daft Wader
:ok:

What about the "consultation period"?

I believe the 3rd dec is the end of the consultation period. other things on the go, I hear the 767 flt manager is doing his 737 conversion at this time, hmmmm thought he was A330 bound. :ok:

LIMA OR ALPHA JUNK

"You sure about that ? I understand that two are coming from Star with French crews " :ugh:

Yes im sure but if its hard to understand lets go over it once again...

1 x A330 November 2008 delivery
1 x A330 December 2008 delivery
1 x A330 March 2009 delivery
1 x A330 April 2009 delivery

There is also a wet lease from XL France for Summer 2008 season but thats leading into, not replacing, the 4 new aircraft.

Are you for real? :ugh:

Anybody heard anything more on the consolidation period? :ok:

SNAM

Sorry dude thought you was talking about 76.
Yes I think they are recruiting on 73, Heard they were short and think some 76 guy's will be joining the 73 fleet in the new year, numbers still to be finalised I believe.

HFS