PRECISELY.

Noiffs, if it is " Funny how all of us at BACON seem to have several job offers on a plate from employers who are offering FAR BETTER terms", why don't you take one of them and shut up?

The only reason I can see for your continued attacks is that you are unwilling or unable to do so. I can't think of any other reason for your increasingly bitter rants.

You clearly don't like flybe at all, and I'm sure that flybe neither wants nor needs people with your attitude, so why not take one of the numerous offers from airlines that are desperate to employ you?

And as for balance sheets, for a privately owned company, flybe is doing fine... :rolleyes:

I am just fine Remoak thank you with several options other than FLYBE.

Why dont I do as you would like and shut up?

Because this is an industry forum where we are free to express our views.

Granted freedom of speech is not something your management like..........since their draft documentation included the right to keep records of our sexual preferences and assess suitability for redundancy based on trade union membership and "cooperativeness".

With lunatics like that running the show, what hope is there for any of you?

Glad you think you are doing OK.

Actualy if it were not for the support of the Walker Trust and aircraft manufacturers FLYBE would fall over. The company is massively over borrowed.

To those of you who appear to be in the know - on both sides - and for the benefit of the many ppruners following this affair from the outside, what odds would you place on this deal going through? It seems to me that flyBe never thought this one through. It probably seemed 'a good idea' at the time and I'm sure BA said all the right things to make it appear as the deal of the decade. Mmmm?

SAn x

No one's really in the know. Personally I'd give it 65:35 in favour of it going through.

Also, speaking personally, there are good and bad aspects to both outcomes.

One things for sure- the wheels will be coming off the BACON operation and soon.

Too many guys are voting with their feet.

I'd go the other way - 70:30 in favour of NOT happening. Or if it does happen, WW will have paid many more £'s to JF.
Either way there won't be too many pilots left.

I'd go the other way - 90:10 in favour of IT happening. And if it does happen, WW will have to pay many more £'s to JF.
Either way there won't be too many pilots left.

Prinz Eugen
 

Anyone's guess whichever way it might go! Would anyone hazard a guess as to the state of play on the "square bond". Does JF intend to keep it for Bacon pilots regardless, or is he prepared to modify this particularily obnoxious edict for all his potentially rare and valuable Bacon "recruits" if there are still any out there!

What can he bond us on? Dash rating is common and the 145s are off as well, so retraining due to loss of aircraft type precludes a bond

BOS
Can u not sleep?
04:29 :)

This "done deal" is dragging on for much longer than initially proposed.seems to me that there are far too many problems emerging to prevent the smooth integration of these 2 totally different operations.as always it needs someone to make a decision and let all concerned know what the future holds,otherwise those that can leave for pastures new will do so.the crewing problems at Bacon will soon become unmanageable and the operation will go downhill rapidly.for what it's worth,the longer this remains unresolved,the less likely i feel,the merger will take place.what state will bacon be in when this senario is enacted,only time will tell.

As a Connect Engineer at MAN i say the quicker the better that FlyMayBe pull, out, just like you drivers we feel totally let down and exploited, let BA do the right thing and make us redundant, then if "I" choose to join FlyMayBe at least it will be "MY" choice, (but i won't be joining!) and i won't have been sold down the river, unbelievably some engineering staff voted yes for the horendous T + C's being forced upon us, let me go with some money and some dignity!!!

I heard a Rumour the other day that some of the E145's were going off to be repainted in Flybe colours, if true they must be keeping them short to medium term (perhaps to cover for the delay of the E195)

Question is; will there be any 145 pilots around to fly them? Reading this I fear the worst for that idea!!

Thump - had just got up, now I'm off to bed, night night :}

Snigs
Depends on the definition of short to medium term. Some of the 145's are due to be around until 2009.

But remember that in FlyBacon tomorrow is short term, next week is medium term and next month is long term.

Skianyn; I was always led to believe that tomorrow never comes..... Hang on a sec...... there's someone at the door. It must be the four horsemen of the appocalypse!........The end is nigh....7,6,5,4,......
If this deal goes through, it may not be the end of the world as we know it, but you could certainly see it from here!

I have heard it from the proverbial horses mouth at Flybe, that the last Barbie won't leave til 2010. A date that can only slip one way.

Also there are a lot of flights uncovered this week. Are we recruiting on the 145- if not why not?

If Bacon is recruiting, the reason for the shortfall in new joiners could be that Rats do not join sinking ships.

There are plenty of wannabe rats out there who would love to join the 'sinking ship'

Any BACON peeps managed to get on the BACON BALPA forum yet?

The front page has been re-instated, but no forum yet (for me at least).

The vacuum seems to be getting more absolute by the day - no Intercom and now this.........

BOSD - how about resurrecting the PPRUNE forum?

Cheers,

osbo