Hardly surprising then that people aren't rushing forward in droves to accept this deal.

Wake up Mr French or you will lose everything.

From what I can gather, not a lot of our CC will vote yes either. The Union rep is being absolutely fair, answering any questions as clearly as she can but reminding all that she cannot advise how to vote. Above board and honourable.

I hear management are doing the rounds pushing for a yes vote with threats and stuff elsewhere, but then again no management from either BA Connect or Flybe has made any attempt to visit us at all since November. CC managers have sort of said they would come over, but as always cancel at the last minute. I'm not sure Cathy even knows where the Island is.

They are not happy bunnies, and frankly neither are we. I reckon the general concensus coming out of what I hear is that they think calling Willie's bluff and taking the redundency is a viable option for a lot of them.

Oh dear,.....

Deal further delayed until mid-February now according to flybe website.

Ballot Results
 

CC voted against Flybe offer 51%/49%

Engineers voted for Flybe offer 51%/49%

BALPA? Any News?

Rgds GroundBunnie

BALPA? Any News?
Nooo, they are taking this moment of calm to redesign the website/forum access, so it's inaccessible! BUT I CAN SEE IT NOW :-)

Brilliant timing! Especially as Intercom has now been turned off. So no method of communicating!
Who is in favour of a conspiracy theory?! :oh:

now what?
 

:ugh: So BACON cabin crew have voted against, now what happens? I hear on the grape vine that only 51% of crew bothered to vote, so perhaps apathy rules m'lud? Also hear BALPA have accepted a deal???:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: !!

Looks like BALPA have decided that membership feedback from the company forum was a distraction. They will no doubt inform us of pertinent items on a need to know basis!:hmm:

Well the company used to take Intercom down when it was convenient. Love to know who's bright idea it was to do some renovation on the site just when it was so critical to have it

Aplolgies have been made on the site,(finger trouble) and normal service will be resumed a.s.a.p.

Something mucky stirring?
 

Joint statement from flybe/bacon/TGWU/AMICUS re 'failed' cabin crew ballot states " jointly all sides remain firmly committed to the completion of flybe's acquisition of BAConnect and are confident of a positive outcome"

So why bother to ballot if you were going to ignore the result?:=

I get the impression that Flybe management also intend to ignore the result of any pilots ballot.

More fool them.

It was ineviatble at some stage that FLYBE would go back to BA cap in hand to demand more money against the threat of pulling out. That seems to be the game now being played out by Strong. The blame being directed everywhere, Balpa, pension trustees, Uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

Truth is that bit off far more than could be chewed and the FLYBE team way way out of their depth and have pissed off those at BACON who would have been willing to give the company a go. Its all gone on too long and we like less and less what we hear.

Fair to say that most of us couldnt give a damn whether or not the deal goes ahead now and I personally have moved from being pro French and pro the deal to hoping that the whole thing falls over.

BA will then have to make us redundant and deal with us properly instead of chucking us to a bunch of Hillbillies who produce draft documentation containing clauses outlawed by legislation over twenty years ago!!!. (Nice one Mr Fromage!!!!)

Anyone who wants it has alternatives and it seems the biggest miscalculation of Mr French was that he was our only hope. At the moment hed be lucky to get the one third of us who have not already handed our notice in.

BTW 118 Pilots resigned in January. Fact.

Lucky for flybe.

That says it all really.

Third world conditions in a third world company (incidentaly with a very weak balance sheet for those that can read them)

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but shouldn't you be venting your frustrations at the company responsible for the mess, not at the one coming to the rescue?? :ugh:

If you'd rather not join Flybe then why not simply seek employment elsewhere. Don't start bitching at them, they aren't the ones responsible for the situation you find yourself in! :rolleyes:

Rescue:O :O :O

If you want to work for a third world employer............enjoy!

Funny how all of us at BACON seem to have several job offers on a plate from employers who are offering FAR BETTER terms.

Why do you guys in FLYBE enjoy such mediocrity and rubbish???

Cant get a better job anywhere else???? Why dont you apply..............you might surprise yourself......there are plenty out there.

Noifsorbutts said
"Fair to say that most of us couldnt give a damn whether or not the deal goes ahead now"

Since when were you elected to give an opinion for 'most of us'.

Speak for yourself and if you don't like what you are offered, politely decline and go where suits you best. No need for insults or derogatory comments. You will probably find the grass is greener............etc
Regards
Thumper

Thumper,Noiffs is spot on.

The mood in our crewroom has totaly changed and the few remaining who were prepared to take their chances have had enough of all this............

There are good jobs aplenty without being insulted on pay and conditions.

The exodus of pilots at BACon (MAN and BHX especially) is becoming a stampede. It is accelerating at an exponential rate as nobody wants to be the one to switch the lights off.

We are recieving no signals from the FLYBe management encouraging us to stay with the ship - it seems that only those who are very close to retirement or those who see an opportunity to return to their home bases (SOU,BHD,IOM etc) are sticking it out.

If this is not addressed by those that can make a difference, the grand plan is bound to fail. Forget the Embraer 145s flying for another two years - there won't even be enough people to crew a quarter of the fleet by July.