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Aloue 2nd Sep 2006 11:36


Aloue - I have met cadets who have been asked to go on Brookfield contracts and are flying from various bases. This is due to their being too many FO's in Ryanair and the young guys were not getting their flying hours at STN. As cadets the pay is better on a contract.
Inveritas this is so close to being the statement of an apologist for Ryanair that it needs clarification. I say this in case you are so new that your position may be an interpretation of yours based on innocence. Can I therefore ask you to just clarify the following points:

1. Did any of the guys you say were "asked" to go on Brookfield contracts tell you that they did so willingly? Or did they tell you that they were forced to accept a Brookfield contract?

My answer: all of them that I met went to Dublin reluctantly and all said they were forced to take a contract having been employed on the basis of being a full-time employee.

2. How is the need to go to another base driven by having too many F/O's in Ryanair? Can you not "get your flying hours" at any base? Why do the F/O's who go to all other Ryanair bases go as full-time employees?

My answer: Ryanair are fighting a "war of oppression" against the Dublin pilots. Any pilot based in Dublin must suffer the same oppressive reduction in Terms and Conditions arbitrarily introduced by Ryanair. To try to get around this and to avoid the pilots newly based there obtaining "rights" as full-time employees the only option was to make them contrators.

The Dublin pilots resisted Ryanair's little ways and are being made to suffer - a Ryanair speciality. (The pilots may suffer now, but who will suffer most in the end is likely to be an entirely different matter. Let's just wait for the court cases and victimisation claims to click in later this year).

3. Who told you things have changed? Do you mean by this that Ryanair has had some kind of conversion and will start to behave reasonably?

Thin Albert 3rd Sep 2006 13:36

Ryanair Assessment day any news
 
all news appreciated please, SID, failures ,technical.....
thanks
TA:ugh:

MM 66 3rd Sep 2006 15:57

Ryanair Pilot Recruitment
 
Gentleman, I am looking for information about the Ryanair pilot recruitment.
I would be grateful for any details about Simulator and Technical assessment.
Many thanks!

goodwxpilot 3rd Sep 2006 16:30

If you have any pride in your work, don't join!

Martin4 3rd Sep 2006 18:05


Originally Posted by goodwxpilot (Post 2822242)
If you have any pride in your work, don't join!

Whay makes you say that :confused:

Aloue 4th Sep 2006 05:40

Edited for clarification: this post refers to posts 129-131 above, which were not merged in this thread when the following was posted:

This thread, with virtually the same title and same posts has been started here many, many times. There are even two already on this very page.

It would save you a lot of time if you just did a search on the site and read what is there. Lot's of points of view and more than enough to make up your mind.

You will find me one of those saying that while there are good things about Ryanair, they cannot be trusted to deliver on any promises or undertakings given at "Recruitment" or "Assessment" days.

Thin Albert 4th Sep 2006 06:07

hello???any news please..

potkettleblack 4th Sep 2006 08:04

Under EU law isn't there something which says that after a certain number of months/years on contract that you are entitled to the benefits of being a full time employee? I am sure I saw this occuring in the finance scene and hence some companies would axe contractors after a time, often rehiring them on new contracts after a holiday period. Is Ryanair doing the same trick?


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