Ryanair/Qatar Airways - the choice
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Ryanair/Qatar Airways - the choice
Hello everyone,
I have to make a choice between a job with Ryanair or a job with Qatar Airways.
I would like to know your opinions about that.
Many thanks in advance for your points of view.
I have to make a choice between a job with Ryanair or a job with Qatar Airways.
I would like to know your opinions about that.
Many thanks in advance for your points of view.
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From: Between the Moon and NYC
Congrats!
Congrats on having two good offers!
First, two questions for you:
1. What aircraft types or choices at either airline (I presume 737-800 at Ryanair)?
2. Do you prefer warm/dry or cold/wet weather?
Make sure that you conduct a search for Qatar Airways postings - I think I have seen some negative ones in recent months. I have read that Doha is somewhat of a pit - Dubai is much nicer... Qatar Airways, like Ryanair, seems to be expanding quickly - I know it has A380s on the way...
I am sure that Qatar Airways probably pays better too - but then you have to travel if you want to get back to the UK - it's a tradeoff....
What type would you fly at Qatar?
First, two questions for you:
1. What aircraft types or choices at either airline (I presume 737-800 at Ryanair)?
2. Do you prefer warm/dry or cold/wet weather?
Make sure that you conduct a search for Qatar Airways postings - I think I have seen some negative ones in recent months. I have read that Doha is somewhat of a pit - Dubai is much nicer... Qatar Airways, like Ryanair, seems to be expanding quickly - I know it has A380s on the way...
I am sure that Qatar Airways probably pays better too - but then you have to travel if you want to get back to the UK - it's a tradeoff....
What type would you fly at Qatar?
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Thanks Lavdumperer.
Actually i'm flying the 737, but i'm also type rated on the A300/600.
I'm not sure if the deal at Qatar Airways is better than Ryanair, because it's a tax free salary.
As you said, Qatar is expanding quickly just like Ryanair, so the perspectives are very good, at least i think so.
At Qatar i would fly the A300/600.
Lavdumperer,
As you probably see,
I have put a reply on the topic of Fly4fun. Thats because we work on the same company and we are with the same problem in chosing a job.
Many thanks again.
Actually i'm flying the 737, but i'm also type rated on the A300/600.
I'm not sure if the deal at Qatar Airways is better than Ryanair, because it's a tax free salary.
As you said, Qatar is expanding quickly just like Ryanair, so the perspectives are very good, at least i think so.
At Qatar i would fly the A300/600.
Lavdumperer,
As you probably see,
I have put a reply on the topic of Fly4fun. Thats because we work on the same company and we are with the same problem in chosing a job.
Many thanks again.
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From: essex
job choice
congrats on the job.
it depends on what you want.
i know 12 ryanair pilots all in their 20s, and all say the same thing that they will do 5 years which will see them get 5000hrs 3000 of which will be command and then try and get a job with a major carrier. they all say they get treated very badly by the company but it is paid well £3000ish a month take home and they are home every night but it is very hard work. the roster is 5 on 3 off and that is set in stone.
personaly i would take qatar and get wide body experience with all the perks of a major whilst being only 6 hours from london which is nothing.
if you dont like it you will be even more employable but you would have to speak to someone who flies for them. plus emirates isnt far from doha.
one of our cabin crew used to work for qatar and she enjoyed it.
if you go with ryan you will only see !!!!ty airports for half an hour at a time go with qatar and you will nightstop in great cities with lots of girls
it depends on what you want.
i know 12 ryanair pilots all in their 20s, and all say the same thing that they will do 5 years which will see them get 5000hrs 3000 of which will be command and then try and get a job with a major carrier. they all say they get treated very badly by the company but it is paid well £3000ish a month take home and they are home every night but it is very hard work. the roster is 5 on 3 off and that is set in stone.
personaly i would take qatar and get wide body experience with all the perks of a major whilst being only 6 hours from london which is nothing.
if you dont like it you will be even more employable but you would have to speak to someone who flies for them. plus emirates isnt far from doha.
one of our cabin crew used to work for qatar and she enjoyed it.
if you go with ryan you will only see !!!!ty airports for half an hour at a time go with qatar and you will nightstop in great cities with lots of girls
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Qatar is the answer to your question.
An ex collegue of mine is there and has no complaints. The "new" DFO (DF) has cleaned things up quite a bit, also lots of new a/c and interesting routes on the way, much better than euro transits as mentioned earlier.
Ryan are slave drivers. 6 months there and you will never want to step on to an aircraft again.....
An ex collegue of mine is there and has no complaints. The "new" DFO (DF) has cleaned things up quite a bit, also lots of new a/c and interesting routes on the way, much better than euro transits as mentioned earlier.
Ryan are slave drivers. 6 months there and you will never want to step on to an aircraft again.....
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From: essex
dear bendigo
i obviously offended you which i appologise. iwas only giving my opinion to someone elses question not trying to start an arguement about ryan. if you read what i wrote it is actually very honest and i think i mentioned a few good things about the company. but!!!! i do know alot of people there and maybe it is only pub talk but they do complain that fr treat them badly. they dont complain about the money or short time to command just the way they are treated. why dont you answer the persons question instead of jumping on your soap box.
you probably wont read this as i have been away on a trip and it is ten days old ******!
i obviously offended you which i appologise. iwas only giving my opinion to someone elses question not trying to start an arguement about ryan. if you read what i wrote it is actually very honest and i think i mentioned a few good things about the company. but!!!! i do know alot of people there and maybe it is only pub talk but they do complain that fr treat them badly. they dont complain about the money or short time to command just the way they are treated. why dont you answer the persons question instead of jumping on your soap box.
you probably wont read this as i have been away on a trip and it is ten days old ******!
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Dear Fly4Fun
Ignore the rubbish here from stagefool & basil foolish.
Speaking with some insight, join FR if u want a long term
profitable career. Join Quatar if u want a couple of fun years
in the sun!
At FR we work hard but on fixed rosters,issued 4 weeks in adv
with 5/3/4/2 pattern,all earlies or lates,plenty of time off,excell
pay,new a/c and share options booming. Oh yeah and rapid
promotions too! Only downside is reading bulls**t from clowns
like stagefright et al.
Stagefright, dont know if u have any friends, but they dont work
here. If as ur 'friends' say they'll jump after 5 years why are all
the 5,6,7,8,9 and 10 year old veterans still here? Too tired to
leave I presume? Too rich to bother more like!!!!
Perhaps u could explain why 100plus SAS guys showed for
interviews in Cph last week? Oh yeah they were made redundant
..... well I'm sure glad stage/f that I wasnt being so well treated
by this so called major. Finally stagefool, with FR carrying 15m pax this yr, and i believe a target of 20m next, just who are
these so called 'majors' ur 'friends' refer to? Stupid orwhat?
Ignore the rubbish here from stagefool & basil foolish.
Speaking with some insight, join FR if u want a long term
profitable career. Join Quatar if u want a couple of fun years
in the sun!
At FR we work hard but on fixed rosters,issued 4 weeks in adv
with 5/3/4/2 pattern,all earlies or lates,plenty of time off,excell
pay,new a/c and share options booming. Oh yeah and rapid
promotions too! Only downside is reading bulls**t from clowns
like stagefright et al.
Stagefright, dont know if u have any friends, but they dont work
here. If as ur 'friends' say they'll jump after 5 years why are all
the 5,6,7,8,9 and 10 year old veterans still here? Too tired to
leave I presume? Too rich to bother more like!!!!
Perhaps u could explain why 100plus SAS guys showed for
interviews in Cph last week? Oh yeah they were made redundant
..... well I'm sure glad stage/f that I wasnt being so well treated
by this so called major. Finally stagefool, with FR carrying 15m pax this yr, and i believe a target of 20m next, just who are
these so called 'majors' ur 'friends' refer to? Stupid orwhat?
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From: essex
LISTEN ihav2fly i dont give a **** about fr and i am not slagging them off! i am not lying about how many people i know in fr and if you say you work for them i probably see you in the moon as well!
have i ever said that you didnt get commands early or that you dont get paid lots of cash and speaking about long term employees even ray conway told me it was a young mans job. plus so many foriegners working there because no jobs in their own country dont have ago at me ihav2fly or slag me off was just passing on some info from fr guys to someone asking questions. plus fr isnt considered a major yet but i am sure it will be anyway will be a bit more cautious in future
have i ever said that you didnt get commands early or that you dont get paid lots of cash and speaking about long term employees even ray conway told me it was a young mans job. plus so many foriegners working there because no jobs in their own country dont have ago at me ihav2fly or slag me off was just passing on some info from fr guys to someone asking questions. plus fr isnt considered a major yet but i am sure it will be anyway will be a bit more cautious in future
Last edited by Jetdriver; 2nd December 2002 at 00:38.
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From: essex
have been reading with great interest the banter been thrown around here and i must say i agree with stagefright. iluv2fly you havnt read what he was actually saying at all, someone asked a questin and stage/f seems to be giving his honest opinion he even says that "it might be only pub talk". what we dont need is comments like "if you actually have any friends" there is no need for such aggresion or sarcasim. i know someone in ryan who says not such dissimiliar things! for me qatar would be my choice but what do i know. so iluv2fly belt up
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From: essex
oh yes iluv2fly i forgot to mention, i think what they mean by major is a company which gives you crew transport, meals, first class travel, final salary pensions, kids school fees, free housing, a 12 hour flight once aweek not 5 12 hour days, even free parking shall i go on. but you will probably argue that it will all dissapear and you might be right but grab it whilst you can
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From: London
Perfect end to a 4 sctr day - more idiocy from stagefool.
Still cant produce any evidence of what exactly comprises FR's
so called 'bad treatment' of his so called 'friends'?
So apart from the high pay, the new a/c, the rapid promotions,
the fixed rosters issued 4 weeks in adv, the earlies/2off/lates/3off
xtra pay for flying on days off,and the flying share options, what
the **** stagefool did the romans ever do for u?
Did u get the job with GO or Britt where u do less well than us?
Pls stop profering advice on subjects of which u know squat.
As a current FR pilot I can confirm that satisfaction here is pretty
good right now. Not perfect, but pretty good.
Cant think of any where else that offers better package at present and nor can stageidiot.
P.S. Try changing ur address and typing (suggest using cap shift
key)if u want to re-reg as cathaykid just to support ur own vacuous comments stagefool
Still cant produce any evidence of what exactly comprises FR's
so called 'bad treatment' of his so called 'friends'?
So apart from the high pay, the new a/c, the rapid promotions,
the fixed rosters issued 4 weeks in adv, the earlies/2off/lates/3off
xtra pay for flying on days off,and the flying share options, what
the **** stagefool did the romans ever do for u?
Did u get the job with GO or Britt where u do less well than us?
Pls stop profering advice on subjects of which u know squat.
As a current FR pilot I can confirm that satisfaction here is pretty
good right now. Not perfect, but pretty good.
Cant think of any where else that offers better package at present and nor can stageidiot.
P.S. Try changing ur address and typing (suggest using cap shift
key)if u want to re-reg as cathaykid just to support ur own vacuous comments stagefool
Last edited by Jetdriver; 2nd December 2002 at 00:39.
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From: UK
Ryanair won't last!
I've flown Ryanair four times now, and each time it has cost them more money to transport me and my family than it cost me; and that is the only way I would ever choose them. Four days to receive luggage that didn't make a flight- every flight delayed by at least 30 mins. - sorry but we are out of alcoholic drinks and our credit card machine is broken and blah blah blah.
Ryanair may make money during a slow economy, but there will come a time when businessmen value their time more than their money; and when that time comes Ryanair will never be able to compete.
Ryanair may make money during a slow economy, but there will come a time when businessmen value their time more than their money; and when that time comes Ryanair will never be able to compete.
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From: Dubai - sand land.
LUV2fly - please, this forum is not a mobile phone so don`t use text talk. Fools like me have great difficulty reading your postings.
As to the original problem. QATAR would be the one to go for, no question.
As to the original problem. QATAR would be the one to go for, no question.
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From: London
C'mon stage/f, still no details of exactly what the 'bad treatment'
of your 'friends' is? As usual... no facts, no details, just pubgrub!
Typical of the FR-haters, all mouth and no money!!!!
Fly4fun good luck with your decision, my previous advice stands,
all depends on what your looking for. But ignore nonsense from
stage/f or his nom de plume cathaykid - empty vessels etc!
of your 'friends' is? As usual... no facts, no details, just pubgrub!
Typical of the FR-haters, all mouth and no money!!!!
Fly4fun good luck with your decision, my previous advice stands,
all depends on what your looking for. But ignore nonsense from
stage/f or his nom de plume cathaykid - empty vessels etc!
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From: London
Still no facts or details from stage/f-cathay/k?
C'mon post it under either name! Let fly4fun know of all
this 'bad treatment' before he makes up his mind. Lost your
tongue or maybe your 'friends'?
So stage/f apart from the roads, the sanitation,the aquaducts,
the public order and the games what did the romans ever do
for us!!!!!!!
C'mon post it under either name! Let fly4fun know of all
this 'bad treatment' before he makes up his mind. Lost your
tongue or maybe your 'friends'?
So stage/f apart from the roads, the sanitation,the aquaducts,
the public order and the games what did the romans ever do
for us!!!!!!!