SKY EXPRESS Athens Greece
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From: GATWICK
SKY EXPRESS Athens Greece
Please can anyone give an insight to working conditions for SKY express in Athens, as I see that they are looking for Captains on the Airbus fleet . Interested to know if it’s happy place to work, pay scale and working roster ? Thanks in advance .
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Until recently, the roster was only issued for the next 2 weeks (yes, yes I know EASA rules, law etc..) I believe someone reported it and the Greek CAA asked questions (not that they didn’t know). They are issuing now a roster which is hardly ever flown. Frequent daily changes.
It is micromanaged by the CEO. He is involved in all decisions. I heard a story that pilots are not allowed to carry coffee in a cup from airport coffee shops (bad for the image of the company).
Highly unprofessional and egocentric behaviour by the management. Expect to nail 900 hours per year. Days off per month are the “ones provisioned by the law, 8 days” (straight from the horse’s mouth). No sector pay (flat pay no matter how much you fly).
I applied some time ago and had a teams meeting. Rude and arrogant behaviour (by one of the 2 pilots). Tried to belittle my experience. He kept on getting up, leaving the meeting and coming back again throwing questions and remarks like “that’s what we do here”. No summer leave.
I have a couple of friends working there. They wouldn’t dare to post anything against. They can’t wait to get some experience and move on.
Have a look on the requirements they’re asking. It says a lot.
There was a post from someone who attended a face to face interview some time ago. A real piece of art…
It is micromanaged by the CEO. He is involved in all decisions. I heard a story that pilots are not allowed to carry coffee in a cup from airport coffee shops (bad for the image of the company).
Highly unprofessional and egocentric behaviour by the management. Expect to nail 900 hours per year. Days off per month are the “ones provisioned by the law, 8 days” (straight from the horse’s mouth). No sector pay (flat pay no matter how much you fly).
I applied some time ago and had a teams meeting. Rude and arrogant behaviour (by one of the 2 pilots). Tried to belittle my experience. He kept on getting up, leaving the meeting and coming back again throwing questions and remarks like “that’s what we do here”. No summer leave.
I have a couple of friends working there. They wouldn’t dare to post anything against. They can’t wait to get some experience and move on.
Have a look on the requirements they’re asking. It says a lot.
There was a post from someone who attended a face to face interview some time ago. A real piece of art…
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I can concur on what piravlos said almost entirely.
PLEASE STAY CLEAR OF THIS CIRCUS. It's a matter of both dignity and safety.
Most, if not all, of the people who join the company must have some sort of plugin, a connection.
And then pray that their guy won't fall out of favour as they might get in trouble too.
My experience when I applied:
We got to a hotel and after a brief talk and a moderate atpl questons test the interviews took place.
We were waiting at the hotel's lobby for our turn.
Along us was the training manager of the company. A cocky guy who would ask you if you prefer to bang the mother or the daughter when a woman with her 5 years old little girl passed by.
The board consisted of 2 management idiots. They started shooting questions in a super aggressive and provocative tone. They wouldn't pause to hear my answer after a question, they just kept firing.
One particular topic was of great interest of them:
"Are you capable of flying with NO day off during the high peak?" "Do you know how souvlaki shops operate through high season? They never stop! That's what we 're doing".
Yes. They compared airplanes with souvlaki.
One of them, had clearly many souvlaki in his life and was obsessed. In Crete they're making it bigger compared to other parts of Greece. He might liked that. Or they compared an aviation company with a souvlaki shop because the earnings would be close for an employee. Who knows?
Anyway, ofcourse I couldn't fly wday-off a day-off, but I couldn't answer the way the interview played either because of them not stop talking or because there couldn't be a negative answer without provoking them to attack my attitude.
I was asked this at least 3 times though.
On a brief pause I told them "yes, if the duty hours are legal" etc which finally made them stop asking me about it and carried on criticising my attitude.
I could go on and on about this s**thole but I think the above along what piravlos said should be enough.
Just to add that during these days one aircraft had flown 3-4, maybe more sectors while being out of MEL.
PLEASE STAY CLEAR OF THIS CIRCUS. It's a matter of both dignity and safety.
Most, if not all, of the people who join the company must have some sort of plugin, a connection.
And then pray that their guy won't fall out of favour as they might get in trouble too.
My experience when I applied:
We got to a hotel and after a brief talk and a moderate atpl questons test the interviews took place.
We were waiting at the hotel's lobby for our turn.
Along us was the training manager of the company. A cocky guy who would ask you if you prefer to bang the mother or the daughter when a woman with her 5 years old little girl passed by.
The board consisted of 2 management idiots. They started shooting questions in a super aggressive and provocative tone. They wouldn't pause to hear my answer after a question, they just kept firing.
One particular topic was of great interest of them:
"Are you capable of flying with NO day off during the high peak?" "Do you know how souvlaki shops operate through high season? They never stop! That's what we 're doing".
Yes. They compared airplanes with souvlaki.
One of them, had clearly many souvlaki in his life and was obsessed. In Crete they're making it bigger compared to other parts of Greece. He might liked that. Or they compared an aviation company with a souvlaki shop because the earnings would be close for an employee. Who knows?
Anyway, ofcourse I couldn't fly wday-off a day-off, but I couldn't answer the way the interview played either because of them not stop talking or because there couldn't be a negative answer without provoking them to attack my attitude.
I was asked this at least 3 times though.
On a brief pause I told them "yes, if the duty hours are legal" etc which finally made them stop asking me about it and carried on criticising my attitude.
I could go on and on about this s**thole but I think the above along what piravlos said should be enough.
Just to add that during these days one aircraft had flown 3-4, maybe more sectors while being out of MEL.
