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[ATR Star]

Originally Posted by deltahotel

For further clarity, regardless of wording in job ads, there is currently no NTR recruitment for the 777. NTR is 767 only.

Hth

Hi, Do you know if/ when they will call people for interviews in January?

[deltahotel]

No idea. Not part of the recruiting empire, but it is ongoing and I guess they’re working through applications.

[geardown1]

SFO?

deltahotel thanks for your insight and help so far, looks like one of the better jobs in the country. Do you know if DHL Air UK have an SFO position and what the requirements are? If successful, I’d be giving up medium haul command for the right seat again - which is fine, just seeing if you have any insider scoop on the SFO deal/pay/available to experienced newbies?

[deltahotel]

Only difference between FO and SFO is number of stripes on the sleeve - one pay scale for all rhs. Pretty much all of our new joiners have masses of experience inc lhs.

There is a level of experience to acquire the third stripe but tbh I don’t know what it is.

Not sure I’d give up a current cmd, though I don’t know where you are atm.

Not sure if this answers the question or not.

rgds

[GA F15]

Hi all, I’m a 737 Captain thinking very seriously about applying. Can someone please explain the command assessment process, and pass/failure rates?
The assessment process, and initial significant pay drop, are the only things causing me to have second thoughts.
Thanks

[rudestuff]

Originally Posted by deltahotel

There is a level of experience to acquire the third stripe but tbh I don’t know what it is.

It used to be an ATPL and one year in the company. Funny to see guys with grey hair and 2 stripes...

[rudestuff]

Originally Posted by GA F15

Hi all, I’m a 737 Captain thinking very seriously about applying. Can someone please explain the command assessment process, and pass/failure rates?
The assessment process, and initial significant pay drop, are the only things causing me to have second thoughts.
Thanks

What a strange decision to make. The command upgrade procedure is very fair. They want people to pass and train you to do so. Pass rates are high.

[GA F15]

Thanks for the reply, but why is it such a strange decision to make?
The chance for Longhaul flying, to move away from the constant ‘issues’ passengers cause, the relentless chaotic summers and the fact that cargo ops are more resilient through economic downturns..
i know of quite a few 737 Loco Captains that have recently made the move to RHS 767, so there are clearly others that think similar to me.
Thanks

[deltahotel]

Can't argue with those reasons, so feel free to apply and you'll be most welcome. Word on commands - there have been some quick commands due rapid expansion and business need and now we're working through the backlog of pre existing pilots alongside this. So, the only caveat I would put in is that it really hard to gauge time to command for new joiners regardless of previous experience.

Rudestuff is right - assessment, selection and training for commands is sensible. We are in the business of training for success which obviously depends on the correct selection in the first place.

hth

[rudestuff]

Originally Posted by GA F15

Thanks for the reply, but why is it such a strange decision to make?
The chance for Longhaul flying, to move away from the constant ‘issues’ passengers cause, the relentless chaotic summers and the fact that cargo ops are more resilient through economic downturns..
i know of quite a few 737 Loco Captains that have recently made the move to RHS 767, so there are clearly others that think similar to me.
Thanks

Fair enough, but generally on this side of the Atlantic isn't the name of the game to get into the LHS and stay there? Long haul is great compared to the SH 4 sector nights they were doing until a year ago, but it's not the be-all and end-all. I know it's each to their own but I would have assumed that a Ryanair type roster offers the best quality of life? Sleeping in your own bed etc.. With DHK you can expect to be away from home for 8-12 day trips a couple of times a month. As DeltaHotel says right now the upgrade times are super fast, but forgetting about the 757s for now - 99% of the flying is for 767 and 777. Direct entry were mostly 777 rated. Unless you've got that rating you'll end up as a 767 FO. That means you'll be at the back of the list for upgrade behind guys with the hours who joined ahead of you.
When the music stops you could end up in that seat for longer than you planned.

[geardown1]

Balpa

How's the union in DHL UK, I remember seeing some DHL pay rises in the last couple years via the 'On the Radar' balpa emails - with DHL UK transitioning to long haul, are there any pay talks ongoing/future pay rises due? In saying that, the salary already looks good. Just interested on whats going on behind the scenes.

Cheers

[SpamCanDriver]

Originally Posted by rudestuff

Fair enough, but generally on this side of the Atlantic isn't the name of the game to get into the LHS and stay there? Long haul is great compared to the SH 4 sector nights they were doing until a year ago, but it's not the be-all and end-all. I know it's each to their own but I would have assumed that a Ryanair type roster offers the best quality of life? Sleeping in your own bed etc.. With DHK you can expect to be away from home for 8-12 day trips a couple of times a month. As DeltaHotel says right now the upgrade times are super fast, but forgetting about the 757s for now - 99% of the flying is for 767 and 777. Direct entry were mostly 777 rated. Unless you've got that rating you'll end up as a 767 FO. That means you'll be at the back of the list for upgrade behind guys with the hours who joined ahead of you.
When the music stops you could end up in that seat for longer than you planned.

8-12 day trips, twice a month?

That's the first I've heard of that...

[ATR Star]

Has anyone heard anything from DHL yet? Interviews?

[AIMINGHIGH123]

Originally Posted by rudestuff

Fair enough, but generally on this side of the Atlantic isn't the name of the game to get into the LHS and stay there? Long haul is great compared to the SH 4 sector nights they were doing until a year ago, but it's not the be-all and end-all. I know it's each to their own but I would have assumed that a Ryanair type roster offers the best quality of life? Sleeping in your own bed etc.. With DHK you can expect to be away from home for 8-12 day trips a couple of times a month. As DeltaHotel says right now the upgrade times are super fast, but forgetting about the 757s for now - 99% of the flying is for 767 and 777. Direct entry were mostly 777 rated. Unless you've got that rating you'll end up as a 767 FO. That means you'll be at the back of the list for upgrade behind guys with the hours who joined ahead of you.
When the music stops you could end up in that seat for longer than you planned.

At present winter time. It’s a bit quieter at RYR. Last summer was diabolical at RYR. Earlies we’re starting 5-6am. Landing after 4 sectors at 16.00 was normal. Earlier than that you had an easy day or were hitting 99hrs for 28 days. Once a week landing at 18.00. 12 hrs rest and back in again. 5 days on and pretty much didn’t see the other half apart from dinner together. Lates starting anytime from 12.00 and landing sometime 11-12 hrs later. Twice in a 5 day block I went into discretion, pushing 14hrs.
So yes while RYR you will be sleeping in your own bed days on you might not see the family. Speak with anyone with a family and the conversation usually goes like this. “What day you on? Day 5. Oh so off tomorrow. Yeah sleep first day. 2 days with family. Last day get up early/late to adjust body clock”

This coupled with pay etc is why many are leaving RYR.

[geardown1]

How's the union in DHL UK, I remember seeing some DHL pay rises in the last couple years via the 'On the Radar' balpa emails - with DHL UK transitioning to long haul, are there any pay talks ongoing/future pay rises due? In saying that, the salary already looks good. Just interested on whats going on behind the scenes in the transition to long haul.

Cheers