British Airways Direct Entry Pilot
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 179
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From: uk
Exciting times,March Rosters have Prestwick tagged for a couple of visits.
RW31 has 3,5deg Glide and personally having conducted such detail with ab initio,I would have chosen Shannon or Chateauroux.
Good luck regardless.
RW31 has 3,5deg Glide and personally having conducted such detail with ab initio,I would have chosen Shannon or Chateauroux.
Good luck regardless.
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 70
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From: UK
Slightly missing the point (and maybe doesn't apply to BA), but where there are lower limitations for inexperienced copilots, it saves the captain the peril of unintentionally giving the sector to someone outside their limits, when otherwise they can immediately see from their two stripes that they may be limited (either by the manual, or by general experience), or not, if they they have three. Plus the rostering booboo where two inexperienced pilots are put together - the captain get really get it in the neck for that one, especially if it is picked up mid trip!
And for those with forces experience, I always found ex CX skippers more straightforward - not sufferers of fools, but they'll tell you to your face at least! And usually a blast on a layover.
And for those with forces experience, I always found ex CX skippers more straightforward - not sufferers of fools, but they'll tell you to your face at least! And usually a blast on a layover.
you couldn’t pay me enough to go back to CX with some of those skippers, BA is a much nicer place to work by far.
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 13
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From: Lahore
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 241
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
Joined: Dec 2025
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 215
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From: England
I was training both sides of covid and there was a lot of ‘letter writing’ and outright agitation that went on from certain segments of the school at various stages. The worst offenders were always the ‘tagged’ students. Even though all had only conditional job offers and almost all were there thanks to mommy and daddy’s money the sense of entitlement from certain individuals- most of whom had come straight out of school- was hard to stomach.
I was a MPL myself but made every effort to keep out of these activities, I even had to explicitly ask to have my name removed from a couple of emails where my name had been included without my permission.
funnily enough much of this noise ended in March 2020.
on the whole most grew out of it by the time they got to the line but you still hear about plenty of the same names making a name for themselves amongst the company/crews and more than a few have found themselves under extreme scrutiny for their attitudes
I’d hope BA management find a way to put the fear of god into what is no doubt a vocal minority who may or may not speak for many others. This job is a privilege and the least tolerable trait in it has to be a lack of humility
(I’m not a BA employee and have no aspirations to be)
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: CPL
Posts: 6
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From: Kent
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
From: London
All base training has been rostered in the system as PIK for a million years. Actual destination decided the day before / day of.
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: CPL
Posts: 6
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From: Kent
Both items still work in progress, slowly, with no end in sight. Talks between Mainline, CF, and respective BALPA CC's ongoing yet any major progress isn't shared as such. Despite that, all parties agree this is the furthest these MSL discussions have progressed, in the 20+ years it's been rumoured to be happening.
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: London
I mean this as a genuine open question - not a loaded one.
I can see why BACF would like to join; and even why the company would like the lists to merge (quite a large and cheap carrot for recruitment …). But why would any mainline pilot want BACF join the MSL? I can only see negatives.
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: UK
I have never heard even the sniff of a rumour that there has even been a discussion about BACF joining the master seniority list. As the above poster says - what would be in it for BA pilots? I don’t see that ever happening.
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 231
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From: LONDON
Are Cityflyer going to be integrated into MSL as part of it?
Operating out of LCY is expensive in comparison due to its restrictions, therefore there is no incentive for BA to raise this further by allowing an MSL merge to happen.
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: UK