BA Holdpool
Joined: May 2009
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From: somewhere in the middle
That's my mistake & I'll take it on the chin. But the pay scales do diverge fairly rapidly, approximately £900 per year (cumulative) for LH vs SH. Soon adds up...
Joined: Jan 2022
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It's crazy people are still considering BA considering how the junior were treated in 2020...
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.

Joined: Mar 2019
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From: European riviera
It's crazy people are still considering BA considering how the junior were treated in 2020...
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.

Joined: Jan 2010
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From: UK
It's crazy people are still considering BA considering how the junior were treated in 2020...
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.
Especially with the current climate in the east of Europe and economically....
Are you people employed looking to move? or unemployed and BA is the only option, UK licence for example.
Look at guys from Flybe (750 pilots dumped on the market), Norwegian, Cityjet!!!
Yes it wasn’t nice but a lot are back now and yes it’s been discussed a lot BA SH is pretty tough but you have options.
No airline is perfect have to find what suits you.
Ok J2 didn’t get rid of anyone but for some doing SH around Europe for 20-30 years would be dull as dish water. For others it’s great.
I would put money on as soon as BA open to external the system will crash within and hour. They will be inundated.

Joined: Mar 2018
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: U.K.
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Dorset
Joined: May 2009
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From: somewhere in the middle
Have also been told by a fairly senior (320) trainer that their "working assumption now is everyone that wants to come back has a course date".
I don't know how this translates to other fleets.
I'm not trying to knock you down, just repeating what I've been told. Hopefully they're just working towards your point in the list.
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Where are you in the PRP / Are you 320 rated? I know of someone who was offered 320 Mainline LHR despite only being about 6 months in the company when chopped (they joined in Jan 2020 IIRC). They were however 320 rated.
Have also been told by a fairly senior (320) trainer that their "working assumption now is everyone that wants to come back has a course date".
I don't know how this translates to other fleets.
I'm not trying to knock you down, just repeating what I've been told. Hopefully they're just working towards your point in the list.
Have also been told by a fairly senior (320) trainer that their "working assumption now is everyone that wants to come back has a course date".
I don't know how this translates to other fleets.
I'm not trying to knock you down, just repeating what I've been told. Hopefully they're just working towards your point in the list.
There are still some at the very bottom who havent been offered anything yet (very few)
And also 40-60 who were unable to make their first offer due to notice, bond payments or waiting for LH (I would presume around 70-80 left all in?)
Then the PHP under that (unsure of size). I would be surprised if there is any external recruitment this year. Wouldnt surprise me after PRP and PHP drained it slowed down completely, but only indivividuals in planning would be able to say for sure.
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From: Dorset
There are still some at the very bottom who havent been offered anything yet (very few)
And also 40-60 who were unable to make their first offer due to notice, bond payments or waiting for LH (I would presume around 70-80 left all in?)
Then the PHP under that (unsure of size). I would be surprised if there is any external recruitment this year. Wouldnt surprise me after PRP and PHP drained it slowed down completely, but only indivividuals in planning would be able to say for sure.
And also 40-60 who were unable to make their first offer due to notice, bond payments or waiting for LH (I would presume around 70-80 left all in?)
Then the PHP under that (unsure of size). I would be surprised if there is any external recruitment this year. Wouldnt surprise me after PRP and PHP drained it slowed down completely, but only indivividuals in planning would be able to say for sure.
Last edited by Die By Wire; 27th June 2022 at 17:32.
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: The Peaks
The Priority Hold Pool (terminated offers) in theory should be 3 months worth of courses/candidates - don't know how many would have run a month and numbers on courses. Standard offer to start date was 3 months back in 2019/20.
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From: Europe
If anybody is tempted to get back into it by joining Euroflyer down in Gatwick, let me assure you it’s wonderful.
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!

Joined: May 1999
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
If anybody is tempted to get back into it by joining Euroflyer down in Gatwick, let me assure you it’s wonderful.
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!
Joined: Dec 2016
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From: Athens
If anybody is tempted to get back into it by joining Euroflyer down in Gatwick, let me assure you it’s wonderful.
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!
If you enjoy 6 on 1 off starting with lates and rotating backwards to mornings, and working with cabin crew who’ve slept for 4 hours in the last 5 days then really, it’s the place for you!

Don´t feed the troll!!!Friend of mine just got his CMD in LGW. Startup OPS as expected, nothing unusual.. small base and nice chaps there. Average sector length is around 3,5hrs due to the route network (Spain, Greece, Italy, Turkey..)
So for the rocket scientist: 7hours per day times 6 days = 42hours + another lets say 6 days and you are with 84hrs... so not that much left you can do in the remaining 18 days.. ;-)
Anyhow.. don't feed the troll....

Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Oxfordshire
My understanding..
Plan is extremely fluid - potential DEP numbers for next year differ from none to a lot on a weekly basis, but entirely depends on BA’s ability to recover (build up the rest of the operation such as below the wing and not forgetting the LH a/c delivery delays).
I believe it’s a little more negative now than what it was a few weeks ago, but only time will tell and regardless they’re keen to get numbers in a hold pool for new DEPs just in case.
Aside from those who remain in the PRP..
PHP + (no contract) Hold Pool equals around 150 heads so that’ll absorb a chunk of vacancies, but it sounds like everything’s ready to go to launch a campaign IF it’s needed..
I say this and they’ll announce it tomorrow..
Plan is extremely fluid - potential DEP numbers for next year differ from none to a lot on a weekly basis, but entirely depends on BA’s ability to recover (build up the rest of the operation such as below the wing and not forgetting the LH a/c delivery delays).
I believe it’s a little more negative now than what it was a few weeks ago, but only time will tell and regardless they’re keen to get numbers in a hold pool for new DEPs just in case.
Aside from those who remain in the PRP..
PHP + (no contract) Hold Pool equals around 150 heads so that’ll absorb a chunk of vacancies, but it sounds like everything’s ready to go to launch a campaign IF it’s needed..
I say this and they’ll announce it tomorrow..
Joined: Jan 2022
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From: Voted out
For anyone hoping to apply it might be worth bearing in mind that BA initially *said* they would honor people already in the recruitment process, if not honor their position, possibly give them first dibs on reapplying, which was at least a few month worth of assesments...



