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Is This what an Aviator is nowadays ??

Old 14th Jul 2020, 07:45
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Not surprisingly at all ; as others have said, the general mentality amongst the pilot population is to always try and look for this little something that others did not reach or could not think about to be able to impress employers or colleagues. While sometimes this can be a positive way of thinking if applied correctly - in terms of safety for example - it becomes quickly detrimental when used against Your own colleagues, and that actually happens most of the time. The above is a perfect example ; Works for free, establishes a precedent and more will need to follow.
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Old 19th Jul 2020, 21:19
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Maybe the prospect of spending even more time at home with the wife fills him with fear.
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Old 19th Jul 2020, 23:29
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There was a US 320 Capt flying for some carrier in Vietnam " helping them out " during this difficult times me . BS ! There may be more to it but.....
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 02:02
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Why worry? It's obviously an unsustainable position. Who can afford to work for nothing?

And it might just be a management troll.
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 14:17
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Down here in oz pilots have been doing this in GA for 50 years that I know of and happy to fly overweight and unserviceable light aircraft. Then they move to the airlines and sneer about how lousy GA is, and it is , thanks to these twerps.
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 17:40
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I just saw an ad from Rishworth for Vietnam Airlines. A320 LTC/TRI/TRE position, 400 usd basic plus 25 usd/hour after the 25th.

Why not, if a captain is ready to fly for nothing?
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 23:01
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Sounds too good to be true, where can I sign up onto the waiting list?

On a serious note, does anyone think that this is actually sustainable? The cost of relocation to Vietnam, quite likely transferring your licence and medical, hiring accommodation, paying for transportation, food, amenities etc quickly adds up to an amount which you will never, ever recoup on this income. So, technically, you're going there to burn your savings instead of earning anything. P2F - TRI edition. And, unlike the clueless P2F blokes who sign onto almost similar schemes to get into the RHS, you're the one to go to jail if they screw up. Curious to know who will be desperate enough to take that.
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 09:37
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plenty of people willing to do that.
Btw Vietnam is all messed up. Dont go there.
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 16:29
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Flew a trip with an NINE year Easy copilot a few years ago (usless) . On his way to Vietnam as a Capt.
Makes you wonder?
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Old 13th Aug 2020, 09:31
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Jobs like that in Asia right now are to meet some urgent but very very uncertain and short term need (those words are not contradictory in Asia).
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 22:48
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Extraordinary and sad times for aviators.
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Old 15th Aug 2020, 11:15
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The worrying thing is I don't think the bottom is anywhere near being reached. Terms and conditions still have a long, long way to fall.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 15:43
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Is this P2F 2.0???
If it is Overheat out.
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Old 27th Aug 2020, 12:29
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Originally Posted by LorisBatacchi View Post
plenty of people willing to do that.
Btw Vietnam is all messed up. Dont go there.
They are indeed :

Are they for real ?
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Old 27th Aug 2020, 13:15
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Is this what the industry has reduced to?
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Old 27th Aug 2020, 15:46
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Is that a typo ?
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Old 27th Aug 2020, 16:21
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Of course it's a typo. Not even a Vietnamese cabin crew could survive on $400 per month.
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Old 27th Aug 2020, 17:24
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Perhaps they forgot to add a zero to the basic fee. And it would still be appalling.
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Old 28th Aug 2020, 01:19
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It’s not.. Someone contacted them according the “ redundancies “ thread in R&N. With flight pay can expect $3500_5000
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