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Wizz Air announces 1,000 redundancies as it cuts 19% of workforce

Old 24th Apr 2020, 21:39
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Originally Posted by iandy912i View Post
have just got a push notification from their app, so it should be truth
but i've heard somewhere that Luton will be temporarily closed for some time and everything will be moved to Gatwick or smth

LTN does not accept passenger flights until 01/05/2020 0500z, opens in time again for the first Wizz air flights operated by Wizz UK.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 07:35
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Talking

Originally Posted by FlightDetent View Post
Reality check, to call spade a spade. The highest HDP per capita in CEE is in Prague, Czechia. Last time I passed around one of the LIDL there, a proud wall-sized advertisement announced for store staff. 35 hr week, no night stops or red-eyes.

1040 EUR gross.

795 net.

In the third year of service.
I am talking about TESCO UK, but if you want to compare it with Eastern European levels, OK.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 12:10
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Yesterday's interview with Joszef Varadi mentions a speed-up in the Wizz air Abu Dhabi project, with commencement of operations in Q3 2020. So, maybe good news for some of the most severely affected crews?
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 17:29
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
Yesterday's interview with Joszef Varadi mentions a speed-up in the Wizz air Abu Dhabi project, with commencement of operations in Q3 2020. So, maybe good news for some of the most severely affected crews?
From Q2 to Q3? Not quite a speed up.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 21:39
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Originally Posted by samca View Post
Cpt B. I know that there is contractors pilots in RYR. And the main difference is that they don’t have base salary in comparasion with Irish contract pilots working in their network. All of pilots under Irish contract have base salary.

However in WIZZ all the contractors have base salary, that’s why in WIZZ most of the pilots fired of this 265 pilots has been CONFAIR. They don’t have to pay anything and they don’t have to deal with the jurisdiction of their countries. Around 142 out of 265 pilots fired has been CONFAIR contract (floating pilots or fix based). That’s why these pilots has been easy to fire first and then the rest with local contracts.

Varadi said several times “Cash is King”. Their priority is the Company and the liquity. And we have all to respect the management decitions. It is their company. And for the rest of people that still there they cannot complain. Nobody is pushing them, everybody decide about his life and if you think you are a slave, don’t work for them instead of complaining. Business is business for them, they left very clear this time.

In the other hand we have if it has been ethic or not to fire 20% of your employees having a liquity of 1.6B, aircraft orders and a new company AOC in Abu Dhabi... but that is another history. And again we all must respect their decition or strategy even if we are not balanced regarding ethic part. Every human is different, every human has been educated different, and every person has different values on life.
Unless the Confair contracts have changed a lot over the years, I would say that fired pilots might have some legal remedy against Wizz based on 2 facts that was confirmed with ECA and the Swiss Pilot union some years ago.
That is the following:

1. The Confair contract that time stated the following:
Confair is Dutch company, and the contract should be governed according to Belgian law in a Swiss court of Geneva. This contract states that you are self employed, and are responsible to pay all your taxes etc yourself, nothing to do with the company.

2. Company Wizz Air provides a Swiss tax certificate, which clearly states that the Pilots are employed directly by Wizz Air. It's written on the tax certificate.

I had both documents analysed by the Swiss Pilots Unions legal team and ECA, and they confirmed according the documents presented it could be assumed the pilot was employed by Wizz Air, and not Confair, solely based on the Swiss tax document, which is an official document.

So before anyone jumps up and says I am talking about things I don't know, I still have the documents / emails provided by the Swiss Pilot union.

They might have changed all that nonsense of Dutch, Belgian and Swiss Geneva court, this does not change the fact that if you have a Swiss tax certificate you are employed directly by Wizz, despite these nonsense Confair contracts floating around.

You can't one hand be told that you need to sort out your own taxes, and than on the other hand get a Swiss tax certificate provided by Wizz Air, without that making a legally binding agreement that Wizz is your legal employee.

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Old 26th Apr 2020, 20:32
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Originally Posted by TBSC View Post
From Q2 to Q3? Not quite a speed up.
https://aeronewsglobal.com/bucharest...rom-abu-dhabi/
Summer 2020, as opposed to the original plan of autumn 2020. However, it's another matter whether any travel between EU and non-EU states will be allowed by that time. Or whether there will be enough demand, especially if a 14-day quarantine is mandated on both ends.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 09:57
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Buzz just followed up today with redundancies and salary cuts across CEE...
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 14:16
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Buzz just followed up today with redundancies and salary cuts across CEE...

Where is this info coming from? Nothing was told to the employees today
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 15:25
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
https://aeronewsglobal.com/bucharest...rom-abu-dhabi/
Summer 2020, as opposed to the original plan of autumn 2020. However, it's another matter whether any travel between EU and non-EU states will be allowed by that time. Or whether there will be enough demand, especially if a 14-day quarantine is mandated on both ends.
There is no scenario in which governments open borders but then also mandate a 14 day quarantine period. It would make the former intention (ie restarting tourism and business) utterly unachievable and pointless.

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Old 27th Apr 2020, 17:45
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Originally Posted by iandy912i View Post
Where is this info coming from? Nothing was told to the employees today
From the letter sent to all Buzz pilots by Warsaw Aviation.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 03:55
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Back to Wizzair: apparently a second round of retrenchment is inevitable, according to some internal rumors. Any thoughts?
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 10:21
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In an article by the European cockpit association (subject of the thread started by Samca) there's the following statement:

Wizz Air, another airline making extensive use of atypical employment, announced it was cutting almost 20% of its workforce and remaining frontline staff take a 14% pay cut – whilst its CEO boasts about the comfortable cash reserves of his airline. In a memo to crew, Wizz Air presents its criteria for laying off pilots such as “willingness to work on days off”, “absence history” and “cooperation with the company”.

Was such a memo indeed sent to the crews? Or is it another rumour circulated by the media?
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 10:28
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
In an article by the European cockpit association (subject of the thread started by Samca) there's the following statement:

Wizz Air, another airline making extensive use of atypical employment, announced it was cutting almost 20% of its workforce and remaining frontline staff take a 14% pay cut – whilst its CEO boasts about the comfortable cash reserves of his airline. In a memo to crew, Wizz Air presents its criteria for laying off pilots such as “willingness to work on days off”, “absence history” and “cooperation with the company”.

Was such a memo indeed sent to the crews? Or is it another rumour circulated by the media?
It was supposed to be like that for WIZZ UK... Other bases have different criteria like base captains decision, or grading system according to performance, years in Wizz and age.

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Old 28th Apr 2020, 11:21
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So everywhere else it is mostly ok. Contractors first, then various criteria on top route-reduction principle bearing in mind that pure LIFO is illegal.

Meanwhile in Blighty the 18th century slavery capitalism prevails? Please tell us it isn't so.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 11:53
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Mostly ok? Maybe. Depends if you are cadet who recently joined Wizzair and you were lucky to keep your job comparing to other FO who is working for 4-5 years in Wizz and is kicked out based on base captain opinion or irrelevant criteria.

As I know people who were company minded and who commited part of their life to wizz, just to be kicked out after 6+ years of service and others who were showing bad performance kept, I can't say this way of layoffs where fair neither...
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 12:15
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The various young guns above are understandably upset, I would feel no different in their shoes. Reality is sometimes a pill too hard to swallow and even if you manage without throwing up, now and then life actually does treat you unfair undeservedly.

I think these are actual facts:
The only fair method of choosing who to let go is a random pick.
LIFO as the sole criterion is illegal.
The beancounters are responsible to the owners for the future well-being of the company, in line with the owner's wishes.

If a hypothetical base captain's choice is 50% professional and 50% personal vendetta, you'd still get half of the weakest links out of the company. I am genuinely hoping to hear about any other methods that actually do exist within the present-day EU legal framework which would produce better results.



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Old 28th Apr 2020, 12:41
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Very nicely said... It would be nice to explain it to guys who spent 13+ years in Wizz to be fired at the end while others who came recently are still there. Unfortunately, that's what you get when you have no seniority in airline... More you serve, more stable you should feel. Here it's not a case...

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Old 28th Apr 2020, 13:05
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I'm genuinely sorry for how they feel and the strain on the families, that it hurts less the second time around is no consolation of course. Given your location surely you've seen people pulling through their third and even fourth lap perhaps.

Seriously, the important thing is to keep one's sanity and emotional health. Quite tricky to do so since the broken bits inside do not manifest through physical pain. Namaste.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 13:21
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It's a very strong message from management to the other employees who have kept their jobs….
" Do not call sick (for whatever genuine reasons), systematically accept to work on your days off if requested, and of course do not dare asking for any social rights. WARNING! YOU ARE NEXT ON LINE! IN A TOTAL RANDOM ORDER! "
Brutal post-communist modern slavery.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 13:27
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent View Post
I'm genuinely sorry for how they feel and the strain on the families, that it hurts less the second time around is no consolation of course. Given your location surely you've seen people pulling through their third and even fourth lap perhaps.

Seriously, the important thing is to keep one's sanity and emotional health. Quite tricky to do so since the broken bits inside do not manifest through physical pain. Namaste.
That's true... Thank you for kind words.
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