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what you actually mean is it would benefit you, at this precise moment in time.
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My biggest concern for Virgin over BA is probably the routes, the network doesn’t seem to be that big anymore. Can any airbus guys comment on this? With a long career still ahead of me I’m slightly worried I would get bored of doing the same 15 or so LH routes over and over again.
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Actually for me it would make no difference what so ever. I am quite comfortable with my position, deal and circumstance. You only have to listen to FO’s who have no interest in a command because of pay and rostering. There needs to be an incentive to get people moving forwards within the airline. The SH command issue is well known and we see ok bids for pilots with less than the minimum required experience. On the other hand we have very capable experienced pilots sitting in the RHS who could offer a lot more to BA than they currently do. It’s not their fault but the system. I would keep a open mind to how this could be rectified but strict seniority does not work.
What would suit me? Not sure really but I must be happy enough otherwise there are other options outside of BA.
Jet2, EZY, Virgin etc.....they all seem to have benefits and draw backs.
What would suit me? Not sure really but I must be happy enough otherwise there are other options outside of BA.
Jet2, EZY, Virgin etc.....they all seem to have benefits and draw backs.
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Agree but the pay scale needs adjusting. We all know SH FOs declining LHS. I couldn’t believe my mate said no but when he said honestly 4 years in on SH and he gets a fair amount of weekends off. The poor pay increase plus associated lack of seniority isn’t worth it to him.
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There is already building pressure on ex-NAPS FOs to take short haul commands, with the pension transition period ending in 2023. I expect short haul commands to start going pretty senior starting from 2021/22. People will be holding out for the hope of a long haul command just at the moment, but the more junior NAPS FOs will start jumping to short haul through fear that they will not have the seniority for it in the mad rush as 2023 approaches.
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Actually for me it would make no difference what so ever. I am quite comfortable with my position, deal and circumstance. You only have to listen to FO’s who have no interest in a command because of pay and rostering. There needs to be an incentive to get people moving forwards within the airline. The SH command issue is well known and we see ok bids for pilots with less than the minimum required experience. On the other hand we have very capable experienced pilots sitting in the RHS who could offer a lot more to BA than they currently do. It’s not their fault but the system. I would keep a open mind to how this could be rectified but strict seniority does not work.
What would suit me? Not sure really but I must be happy enough otherwise there are other options outside of BA.
Jet2, EZY, Virgin etc.....they all seem to have benefits and draw backs.
What would suit me? Not sure really but I must be happy enough otherwise there are other options outside of BA.
Jet2, EZY, Virgin etc.....they all seem to have benefits and draw backs.
You only have to glance at the bid packs for all fleets for jan and feb to see that your hypothesis is largely unfounded and at best wild speculation. There are many faults at BA, but choice of seats and commands (and when to take them) are the biggest plus, I don’t see any appetite to change it, apart from the “I want it now” brigade.
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I took a DEC at Ezy instead of BA longhaul. The driving force for me was I'd probably never see a LH command and the SH command pay scale is abysmal. I'd have to be something like a year 15 BA pilot to earn what ezy pays from day 1 for effectively doing the same job, flying the same aircraft. It was a no brainer.
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It just seems like there is a problem when pay and or lifestyle on SH is so unappealing that people choose to delay or avoid command. Granted there is merit in SH FO’s not bidding to go LH as they are enjoying the seniority. Perhaps more tweaks to JSS could help......or maybe not as everyone will be rostered under global constraints. For what it’s worth I benefited from the 2016 junior commands, the extra pay allows me to arrange my home life so that weekend working is less of a problem and when I am off so too is my wife.
Anyway.....BA to Virgin? I am not brave enough so I will just do what pilots do best and moan.
Anyway.....BA to Virgin? I am not brave enough so I will just do what pilots do best and moan.
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It just seems like there is a problem when pay and or lifestyle on SH is so unappealing that people choose to delay or avoid command.
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You chose:
to become a pilot
to join BA
to take an asap SH command
You could have changed fleets and be a LH FO and have some seniority like the many colleagues you assume don't want a SH job as its so terrible.
Whereas they may actually be on LH because they like it!
to become a pilot
to join BA
to take an asap SH command
You could have changed fleets and be a LH FO and have some seniority like the many colleagues you assume don't want a SH job as its so terrible.
Whereas they may actually be on LH because they like it!
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Do anyone know what the current Year 1 Basic Salary + Flight Pay is at Virgin these days, and if a B-Payscale for new entrants has been put in place yet?
PilotJobsNetwork is running a bit thin on details at the moment
PilotJobsNetwork is running a bit thin on details at the moment
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